[net.pets] Bobcats

avsdT:roberts@avsdS.UUCP (05/30/84)

Does anyone have any information on "Bob Cats" as
pets?

Rhode 

wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler) (06/04/84)

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Bobcats take great delight in munching fingers and other
extremities.  The also find it amusing to see if they
can remove noses with one swipe of the paw.  Seriously,
though they are wonderful looking creatures, they are NOT
pet material.  Just as any other of the larger cats can
make life interesting with their antics, Bobcats can do
the same thing.  They have a bad habit of jumping on
unsuspecting dogs from high places and reduceing said dog
to hamburger (I've seen it happen).  They seem to have
nasty dispositions and never become the sweet thing you
might hope for.  They are wild animals with just a little
more on the ball than your average house cat.  

As to laws about keeping them, I rather suspect that most
states do not allow them to be kept as pets.  At least
in those states where they are found in the wild, this is
true.  Don't try to keep a Bobcat as a pet, you will
regret such a decision from day one.
T. C. Wheeler

dxp@pyuxhh.UUCP (D Peak) (06/04/84)

Rhode ,

     A little info might be useful in enlightening you on bobcats

--> 20 years ago it was thought that the bobcat had pretty much been
--> chased out of the Eastern US by the more aggressive Eastern coyote
--> however the bobcat has somewhat surprisingly made a determined
--> comeback.To the extent that a once "protected animal" is now
--> legal for hunting purposes in Maine & Massachusetts.I understand
--> that NJ & NY are in the process of de-classifying the animal as
--> no longer in imminent danger of extinction and in fact are 
--> approaching the status of being a pest that needs to be "controlled".

   The above is a summary of an article I read about a year ago in a 
wildlife magazine , I'll follow up if anyone wants any more hard data.

   Whatever your views for/against hunting the state wildlife authorities 
do not take actions such as the above lightly. In fact the generally act
2-3 years after the action is neccesary in the hopes that nature will
balance things out itself.

  The point I'm trying to make is that the bobcat is one determined 
animal that is very capable of looking after itself and its territory.
Its not an overgrown house cat , it is approx 35-40lbs (male) of
out and out wild animal that is probably second only to the wolverine
(now there's another beatuful looking animal) in ferocity on the
north american continent (with the grizzly bear rated 3rd).      

     I wholeheartedly agree that the bobcat is fantastic looking
animal but unless you get some SERIOUS animal husbandry training
keep your admiration at a distance.


-- 
   
     Dave Peak (pyuxhh!dxp)

     " I'd rather have two girls at 21 each than one girl at 42 ! "
     - W.C. Fields

rxt@lanl-a.UUCP (06/05/84)

<This line is for the bobcat>

I was interested once in having a Cougar as a pet.  They are really pretty
cats!  I had also heard people say that wild animals will revert and
harm the owners.

My wife checked a book out of the local library (sorry, but I do not know
the name or author) on wild animals as pets.  The author apparently had
heard the same stories, and wrote an article in a paper about it,
requesting information from people who had wild animals.  He got plenty
of replies, and then went and visited many of these people.  The book
was about his experiences, but I only read about the cats.

Three families had cougars, and two (I believe) had bobcats.  One of the
families with the cougar had 6 kids.  When the author visited, the cat
was lying on the floor with 6 kids beating on it, pulling its ears and
tail, etc.  The author asked if the parents were worried, and they said
that the cat would push them away if they got too rough.  They even left
the cat to babysit the kids when they went out!  They said the oldest
kid was ten and could call the neighbors on the phone if there was any
problem, and the cat would let the neighbors in but noone else.

Another couple owned a cougar, and the wife taught kindergarden.  When
the husband was out, she would take the cat to class and let the kids
babysit the cat.  They loved it!

The only family that I remember that owned a bobcat had a mobil home.
The cat would sit out on the fence and wait, and the school bus would
come by early and let all the kids out to play with it.  It was always
waiting for them.  It would love to play with the other cats and dogs
in the neighborhood, but they would all run away from it.  It would
cry because they would all run from it (not that I blame them).
The cat snuck up behind the author while he was sitting on the couch
and hit him with his paw.  No claws, but he said it felt like a
baseball bat.  Then the cat bounced around the room and looked at him.

His conclusion was that, if a wild animal had been raised from a cub
as a member of the houshold, it was safe.  If it is confined in a cage,
it gets a zoo mentality, and is afraid - and thus dangerous.  Raising
it as a member of the family means never leaving it alone, etc.
I decided that this is quite a burden  --  you must find someone willing
to take care of it (*GOOD* care of it) while you are away, and you must
be in a neighborhood where the animal will not cause too much trouble.

There was another book called "Ocelots and Margays" that talked about
the trouble and expense of owning one of these animals.  The author
said that having a Margay around is like having a perpetual 5-year
old child.  She said that those cats are STRONG, and that they will
try to dominate you if given the chance.  She said that Margays are
about 15 pounds, but no comparison to a normal house cat (they are
solid muscle).  They also like to climb up on things and jump on your
shoulders as you pass underneath.  Ocelots are about 50 to 60 pounds,
and are also solid muscle.  She says that they like to hide behind things
and tackle you as you pass (and they make excellent fullbacks).

But it is still interesting  --  maybe if I live out in the woods
with no neighbors......


						Richard Thomsen

donch@teklabs.UUCP (Don Chitwood) (06/06/84)

I knew an old miner in N. California who had experience with bobcats.
It seems his wife's white persian female mated with a local tom bobcat.
I only saw one of the kittens, by then an old and venerable cat, very
much a loner except to his people.  

The miner said the cat/bob cleaned up the neighborhood of dogs.
Killed them all.  The animal had very large paws, large white and
gray/black areas on its body, and had a tail that was all curled up and 
perched on its rump.  I didn't have the nerve to check out the tail in more
detail.  

Don Chitwood  tektronix!donch
Advanced Research Labs
Tektronix, OR