[net.pets] Wanted: Obedience Training Informati

ayers@convex.UUCP (08/23/84)

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convex!ayers    Aug 22 18:31:00 1984

[Please, sir -- can I have some more?]

The best, the Best, the BEST training method is the Keeler method.

I state this from personal experience with dogs trained under many
different "systems."  For SURE, long-lasting performance in UNBELIEVABLE
situations (you should see what goes on at dog shows), nothing else
even comes close...

His books are available, but find a school that uses it (so that
you won't be tempted to "put off 'till tomorrow"....).  Consistancy
is important.  [Also, the `Method' must be followed to the letter...]

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There are many people who DO NOT LIKE  the Keeler Method.  If you will pick 
up just one book and read it, you can decide whether or not you are one of
them.


				blues, II

(I am not a friend, but rather the stranger your mother warned you about...)

ayers@convex.UUCP (08/23/84)

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convex!ayers    Aug 23 14:35:00 1984

A 'nuther note:

Yes, by all means go only to a class that lets YOU be the one that 
actually does the training.  The Keller Method classes do that.  
They also (over a period of time) take you as far as you want to 
go with your training.

If you decide you like the idea of showing the dog, but don't want to 
deal with the AKC, "fun" matches are held EVERYWHERE.  They are 
what they sound like:  matches for fun.  A nominal fee is charged 
to pay for the trophies, ribbons, etc, and you get to enter any 
kind of dog you like (there are different groups for different 
sizes, etc of dogs).  A lot of breeders go to these to train their
puppies (yes, there's a `puppy class'), and you can meet some very 
interesting people.


Good luck!

blues, II

mrl@drutx.UUCP (LongoMR) (08/28/84)

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>> The best, the Best, the BEST training method is the Keeler method.

Many will argue over anything that is claimed to be the
"best", so I will just say that I have seen it provide
excellent results. Anyway, the purpose of this article is to
correct the spelling of the name and add some more thoughts
to the original article. The correct spelling (for
those of you who can't wait to jump out to your nearest book
store) is "Koehler". The vital specs are

	"The Koehler Method of Dog Training"
	by William Koehler
	Published by The Howell Book House Inc. $9.95

The book is very good. The methods may seem harsh, but
Koehler's points are well made. The book is written in a
light manner, almost mocking the reader at times, but is
enjoyable reading (for a book of this type) and quite easy
to follow.

BTW: Many *compassionate* dog lovers (refered to by Koehler as
"bleeding hearts" if my memory serves me correctly) do not
approve of this method. They say it is harsh. However, the
only thing that I found harsh about the method is the way
Koehler advocates correcting problems such as "uncurable"
biting, etc. His methods for curing menacing actions by the
dogs are harsh. However, he feels that it is more cruel to destroy a
problem animal than to be "cruel" and correct the problem. If
you are at all interested in dog obedience, read the book. If nothing else,
read the affidavit provided at the beginning of the book.
It is quite impressive and can sell the book better than I.
Koehler's biggest claim to fame is that he has been the
cheif animal trainer for the Disney Studios (remember "Shaggy Dog",
"It's A Dog's Life", "The Incredible Journey", Turk and Duke in
"Swiss Family Robinson", etc? He cant be ALL bad!!...) for 
several years.

		Mark Longo	...!drutx!mrl

genesis@iwu1b.UUCP (Russ Sehnoutka) (08/29/84)

In the Chicago area, there is one person that I know of that
is both very professional and very good.  His name is Frank Brader.
He is responsible for training some of the animals at Brookfield Zoo.

He also does guard dogs training for Dob's, German Shep's, etc.
He has worked out of the Hollywood Community Center in Brookfield
for the past couple of years.  He even can train your dog in German
if you wish. (His Doberman was taught as a guard dog in German, but
responds normally in English.)

I can get his phone number if you wish.  Our family has put one
of our three dogs through his course.

Russ Sehnoutka
AT&T BL,  Naperville, Illinois
IW 1Z-343 x7753
outside AT&T BL  1 (312) 979-7753
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Russ Sehnoutka
AT&T Bell Laboratories
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