brett@ucla-cs.UUCP (04/14/85)
LA papers ran an ad for Liefetime Fela Collars. These collars are not
plastic strip collars, but are rechargeable leather collars with
Eucalyptus buds which have been impregnated and aromatized with a
special blend of oils from three potent, flea-repellent herbs. Its
supposed to emit a refreshing, woodsy scent. Also a special
rejuvenation oil accomapanies the collar. The collar are worn
beneath the neck, and there is no direct contact with chemicals.
This from the Pet Science Laboratories in Deer Park, NY.
Anyone have any good or bad experiences with these collars?
Would you buy one? Or is it a rip off?
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------ericksen@unc.UUCP (James P. Ericksen) (04/20/85)
I don't know what kind of oils are in the flea collar recharger, but there is a product on the market that uses a citrus oil derivative that is VERY TOXIC TO CATS! There was a warning posted at my veterinarian's--I don't remember the name of the flea preparation, but it's marketed through various health food chains and possibly by mail order. If you want to use a "natural" preparation on a cat, find out the specific ingredients and check with at least one knowledgeable vet before purchasing the product. There have been a number of instances of toxicity from supposedly "safe" natural preparations which have resulted in several deaths. Dogs, of course are not nearly as sensitive to substances as cats are; I assume that these products are probably safe for use on dogs. (I would hope that they're safe for some kind of animal, anyway!) Best bet, check with the vet to be sure. I have a friend who uses eucalyptus on her dogs, and she swears it works. However, eucalyptus is extremely aromatic, and if you don't like the smell it will drive you crazy. I think she uses pure eucalyptus extract or oil from the health food store. Again, I wouldn't try eucalyptus on a cat without the vet's okay, and I suspect they might not like the smell anyway. Signed, The Seekers of the Ultimate Flea Problem Solution (We have the ultimate flea problem!) Helen & Jim
mush@dsd.UUCP (Dave Decker) (04/23/85)
> Signed, > > The Seekers of the Ultimate Flea Problem Solution > (We have the ultimate flea problem!) > Helen & Jim For a few years now I have been using, and my Vet has been advising using Fenthion on dogs for fleas. This product is sold under the trade name Spotton in live stock supply stores as a remidy for cattle. I think it has just recently been officialy approved for use on dogs, not sure, however. The dose is 1cc per 100Lb of dog and is applied to the skin in the groin area or groin and rump area. This stuff is very strong and is an organic phosphate. Fleas will leave the animal for about 5 days. You can dose every 7 days although you may be able to dose every 5 days for a while. Fleas, however spend most of their time off the animal in the rugs etc. and can live for a year without food. Making the fleas leave the dog is not the only thing that needs to be done. You must Fog the house and spray the yard/kennel. My Vet says to use Malathion on the yard, but that dosn't work. I use Fenthion. You should not use Fenthion if drainage from your yard will get into the water supply of animals or people, however. Dave Decker DSD Ampex Corp Redwood City Ca (mush)
bruce@fluke.UUCP (Bruce Reynolds) (05/07/85)
*** REPLACE THESE FLEAS WITH FENTHION ***
I'm glad someone brought this up. Do you have a flea problem? Do you
want it to go away?
We have three dogs, and the problem was *severe* a couple of years ago.
It was driving us nuts, and we had tried lots of different things.
Then we tried, on the advice of a (good) vet, fenthion. The fleas
disappeared forever. It's about as effective as a nuclear bomb.
Fenthion (Brand name: Spotton)
When we tried it three years ago, it was experimental on dogs, and we had
to sign a release. It was being tested by a vet school in Georgia. It
has been around a while for treating cattle for grubworms, and can be
bought over the counter in tack or feed stores. It is applied topically,
on the back of the neck, so the dog will not lick at it. It is deadly
poison to cats (don't put it on your cat). It didn't harm my acquarium
fish, or the canary. I WOULDN'T USE IT WITHOUT A VET'S GUIDANCE.
Real simple:
Here's how it works: you put a dab from a syringe on the back of the dogs
neck. We used about 1 cc for 20 pounds of dog, once per month. You can
get by with much less, less frequently, after the problem is controlled.
(The other posting mentions 1 cc per 100 pounds once per week.) The stuff
smells horrible when you open the bottle, and stinks up the house for
several hours.
Real effective:
Soon, your dogs will be free of fleas. So will their beddding, your
bedding, their play area, your yard, your neighbor's yard, your friend's
houses, and lowly-flying aircraft. The stuff is strong. So strong that
after a few months, we used 1cc per dog (60 to 90 lbs) every six weeks,
and still had no problems. We used no other flea-control measures, and
had no fleas, in an area where the problem had been severe.
Well, gosh, it it's so good, isn't it dangerous?
Well, you wanted to get rid of your fleas, didn't you? I once heard a
rumor that it had been weakly linked to a kidney failure or two, but i
think that is a rumor. Your vet will know for sure. We had no effects,
after two half-years (we only used it during the summers). We did cut back
the dosage the Vet recommended when the stuff turned out to work.
We moved, and have a new vet now, who recommended we not use it, partly
because our flea problem is easily controllable now, and partly because he
thought it was a little strong. This is the vet that prescribed DMSO, but
that is another story.
And besides, it's always good to have a bottle of something really deadly
lying around, just in case. :-)
Bruce The Zookeeper
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