schneids@ssc-vax.UUCP (11/21/83)
Yes I'm interested. Please send me info:
!ssc-vax!schneids
or
Schneids
11802-1st Ave. S.
Apt. 4
Seattle, Wash. 98168
p.s. -
Those of you bitching about advertising on the net
STICK IT IN YOUR EAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!abc%brl-bmd@sri-unix.UUCP (11/22/83)
From: A B Cooper III <abc@brl-bmd> Your untoward outburst about advertising on the net is both impolite and uninformed. If your parents did nothing about your manners, then neither can I. As to your lack of awareness, however, I have provided the following note put out by the administrator if Info-Micro to his net. Continued flagrant violations of the policies by which these nets are constrained will only cause all of us to lose a valuable resource for which we pay essentially NOTHING. Brinton Cooper (abc@brl.arpa) Received: From Brl.ARPA by BRL-BMD via smtp; 22 Nov 83 12:04 EST Received: From Mit-Mc.ARPA by BRL via smtp; 22 Nov 83 11:32 EST Date: Mon, 21 Nov 83 13:35:52 EST From: Ron Natalie <ron@brl-vgr> To: Mark Horton <cbosgd!mark@ucb-vax> cc: header-people@mit-mc.arpa, Rudy.Nedved@cmu-cs-a.arpa Subject: Re: Rudy Nedved on mail forwarding Let me point out, that despite what ARPANET (and MILNET) has become, they enjoy some operating benefits that are legally unavailable to commercial telecommunications and computer services. This is THE major reason for the anti-commercial restriction on these nets for it has always been stated in the first few lines of every ARPANet policy statement that the net is not to be used to compete with comparable commercial service. Second policy is that the network must be used solely for the conduct of or in support of official U.S. Government business. This is a wide area. All the discussions about things like Apple computers are in support of the US Gov. because (unfortunately maybe?) the government has bought a lot of Apple computers. DCA has left it up to the host administrators at each site to protect the network with "adequate" access control procedures. In this case you are right, let the host administrators determine what level of interaction he wants to support, but it is not just a question of what money he is paying for his network service. -Ron
Wegeng.Henr@PARC-MAXC.ARPA (11/23/83)
From: Don Wegeng <Wegeng.Henr@PARC-MAXC.ARPA>
The problem that we face when discussing the subject of "commercial use
of the net" is that while ARPANET and MILNET have policies against
commercial use of the net, Usenet does not. In fact, commercial use of
Arpanet and Milnet is illegal.
I suspect that most readers on both sides of the gateway appriciate the
benefits of having the list gatewayed between the nets, and therefore do
not post messages which might cause the gateway to be shut down.
However, this is one instance when a few bad apples have a very good
chance of spoiling the whole bunch if they continue at their present
course.
Don Wegeng
Wegeng.Henr@Parc-Maxc.ARPA (ARPA)
{intelca | pur-ee | rocksvax | sequent} !rocks34!dw (UUCP)