jrodrig@Mitre-Gateway.ARPA (04/18/84)
From: jose rodriguez <jrodrig@Mitre-Gateway.ARPA> Fellow netlanders, Concerning the latest msg about the UUCP-Arpanet connection (and with fears of starting a long discussion in the wrong place) I got a few questions concerning this connection which I would like someone to answer me (and I am sure to the net too). The first questions are purelly informative and the latter ones are more of a "discussion" type. 1) Can arpanet people send msgs to UUCP (and I guess Usenet) sites? Say through Berkeley? I am asking this because I have been sending msgs to UUCP sites for more than a year (for different reasons) and never had any response. 2) Do UUCP people enter the source routing paths manually? You will think there is some automating software for this. 3) Will the UUCP world be ever an Internet domain? I have seen paths like "joe@foovax.UUCP", do any mailer implements this? The following concerns mainly arpanet people: 4) Considering the nature of the UUCP network, (no user to user e-mail, small throughput (which arpanet people should worry about!), no restrictions, etc.) do you consider the UUCP-Arpanet connection usefull or of some value? Or rewording the above, what was the purpose behind connecting the two networks in the first place? ok arpanauts, the ball is in your side, Jose M. Rodriguez jrodrig@mitre-gateway Information Systems Group Mitre Corp.
wcwells%ucbopal.CC@Ucb-Vax.ARPA (04/18/84)
From: William C. Wells <wcwells%ucbopal.CC@Ucb-Vax.ARPA> In reply to: Date: 17 Apr 1984 17:40:15 EST (Tuesday) From: jose rodriguez <jrodrig@Mitre-Gateway.ARPA> Subject: nature of UUCP-Arpanet connection To: info-cpm@Brl-Aos.ARPA Cc: abn.iscams@Usc-Isid.ARPA, jrodrig@Mitre-Gateway.ARPA Fellow netlanders, Concerning the latest msg about the UUCP-Arpanet connection (and with fears of starting a long discussion in the wrong place) I got a few questions concerning this connection which I would like someone to answer me (and I am sure to the net too). Yes you are right, a discussion about Internet/UUCP mail connections should be elsewhere (eg. in the USENET news group "net.mail") Here are some answers. (Can we limit future discussion to the USENET news group "net.micro.cpm" / Internet mail distribution group "INFO-CPM" connection?) The first questions are purelly informative and the latter ones are more of a "discussion" type. 1) Can arpanet people send msgs to UUCP (and I guess Usenet) sites? Say through Berkeley? I am asking this because I have been sending msgs to UUCP sites for more than a year (for different reasons) and never had any response. Yes. BUT, address formats are different. UUCP addresses require source routing, eg. host1!host2!host3!hostid!userid You must know the correct source routing. Note that "USENET" is not a mail network, but a news distribution system which may or may not use UUCP connections to forward articles between USENET news sites. It is easy to confuse a USENET path with a UUCP mail address. They are not necessarily the same. 2) Do UUCP people enter the source routing paths manually? For most UUCP people, the answer is yes. You will think there is some automating software for this. There is. However the information about UUCP mail connections is not accurate yet. 3) Will the UUCP world be ever an Internet domain? Yes, if they meet the requirements for a top domain name. A central UUCP name registry has been established. A nameserver is being developed. UUCP mail connections are in the process of being mapped. I have seen paths like "joe@foovax.UUCP", do any mailer implements this? "user@site.UUCP" is valid in USENET article heading, but not yet fully implimented for UUCP mail. It is of course, not yet valid within the Internet mail world. The unix "sendmail" program may be configured to permit local use of the UUCP top domain name. The following concerns mainly arpanet people: 4) Considering the nature of the UUCP network, (no user to user e-mail, small throughput (which arpanet people should worry about!), no restrictions, etc.) do you consider the UUCP-Arpanet connection usefull or of some value? Or rewording the above, what was the purpose behind connecting the two networks in the first place? The USENET news/INFO-CPM connection is useful in that it provides greater coverage for the discussion of CPM. Whether UUCP/Internet mail should be interconnected is another issue which I do not think should be discussed here. Bill Wells wcwells@Berkeley.ARPA ucbvax!wcwells