[net.micro.cpm] Simtel20 CPM directory file restructuring

Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@Simtel20.ARPA> (11/20/84)

The CPM directory file structure at Simtel20 will be changing over
to more SQueezed and .LBR files in order to conserve space.  This
means that those who have been unable to FTP the ITS-binary files will
need to find some way to fix their FTP programs and/or download
programs to accept the ITS-binary format.  This is usually not an
unsolvable problem.  Send a note to Info-Cpm-Request@AMSAA if you need
help in dealing with binary files.

This reorganization is taking place to conserve disk space so we can
offer more programs.  A new directory, MICRO:<CPM.REQUEST> is being
created to ease the transition.  For a limited time, those who cannot
FTP binary files may send requests to W8SDZ@SIMTEL20 and the
ascii-readable files will be left in the <CPM.REQUEST> directory for
one week, after which they will be deleted.
--Keith

Jim Aspnes <ASP%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC.ARPA> (11/20/84)

Problem: what about us poor people who have to download a file over 
low-baud phone lines before it can be unsqueezed or LDIR'd?  I think
we need, now more than ever, some sort of catalog to the actual file
contents on SIMTEL20, in order to keep people from having to waste
two hours and a disk to find out that there really isn't anything 
worthwhile in some mammoth .LBR or .LQR file that looks interesting
from the outside.

At least keep the .HLP and .DOC files in unsqueezed ASCII.  (Please)

Jim

"Frank J. Wancho" <WANCHO@Simtel20.ARPA> (11/20/84)

Jim,

As long as you have the file of interest already on the mainframe,
presumably FTP'd from here, why not use the CP/M-equivalent utilities
while you have the file there?

TOPS-20 and ITS systems already have DE-LBR, TYPE8, TYPESQ, and USQ.
Unix systems have LAR (an LU equivalent), XSQ, XTYPE, and XUSQ.

Why waste the download time when you can examine the files ahead of
time with these utilities?  Why should we "waste" valuable disk space
to keep such files around in unsqueezed format (and waste net
resources letting you FTP such files instead their squeezed
counterparts)?

Almost all new files and packages placed into MICRO:<CPM.*> are
announced to INFO-CPM as they appear.  The mail archives for INFO-CPM
are available in reasonably-sized chunks in <MAIL.ARCHIVES> for FTP
and review of such messages.  (Hint: survey messages from W8SDZ.)  Of
course, there are .DOC (.DQC) and .HLP (.HQP) files for many of the
files.  Most others are documented in the front of the source files.

We will eventually have all the files in MICRO:<CPM.*> catalogued in a
fashion similar to the catalogue files found in the SIG/M and CPMUG
volumes.  Until resources can be made available to do that task,
please bear with us.

--Frank