MAILER-DAEMON%lanl@sri-unix.UUCP (02/03/84)
Mail addressed to post-info-cpm at a could not be sent. 421 Mail system botch at LANL-A ------- Unsent message is below ------- Date: 2 Feb 1984 14:05:37-MST From: KENT@SUMEX-AIM Received: From brl-gateway2.ARPA by BRL-VGR via smtp; 2 Feb 84 15:46 EST Received: From Sumex-Aim.ARPA by BRL via smtp; 2 Feb 84 15:41 EST Delivery-Notice: While sending this message to BRL.ARPA, the SUMEX-AIM.ARPA mailer was obliged to send this message in 50-byte individually Pushed segments because normal TCP stream transmission timed out. This probably indicates a problem with the receiving TCP or SMTP server. See your site's software support if you have any questions. Date: Thu 2 Feb 84 12:32:14-PST From: Dan Kent <KENT@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA> Subject: what is ZCPR3 ?? To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA I'm a newcomer to this world of CPM-INFO. Is there a glossary somewhere? -------
The System Postmaster <postman@Aerospace.ARPA> (11/27/84)
===== POSTMAN output follows ===== "overman": not delivered (unknown user) ===== unsent message follows ===== Received: FROM AMSAA.ARPA BY USC-ISIF.ARPA WITH TCP ; 27 Nov 84 03:20:29 PST Received: From brl-tgr.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 27 Nov 84 5:47 EST Received: from usenet by BRL-TGR.ARPA id a003944; 27 Nov 84 5:44 EST From: Melinda Shore <shor@sphinx.uchicago.uucp> Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: Re: MANX Aztec C Message-ID: <116@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Date: 26 Nov 84 04:32:24 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Reply-To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA I've been hearing for some time now about a public domain library for Aztec C II. I first heard about it in Dave Cortesi's column in the Feb. '84 Dr. Dobb's I've been trying to find it since then, with no luck whatsoever. Does anyone have any idea how to get it?
The System Postmaster <postman@Aerospace.ARPA> (11/27/84)
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From: Cal Thixton <tj@sun.uucp>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: MANX Aztec C
Message-ID: <1809@sun.uucp>
Date: 26 Nov 84 04:17:36 GMT
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
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I have had good experiences with MANX Aztec C compiler although
I think thier prices are a little high.
--
Cal Thixton
Sun Microsystems
{ucbvax,decvax,decwrl,ihnp4}!sun!{,texsun!}tjThe System Postmaster <postman@Aerospace.ARPA> (11/29/84)
===== POSTMAN output follows ===== "overman": not delivered (unknown user) ===== unsent message follows ===== Received: FROM AMSAA.ARPA BY USC-ISIF.ARPA WITH TCP ; 27 Nov 84 20:30:22 PST Received: From brl-tgr.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 27 Nov 84 22:54 EST Received: from usenet by BRL-TGR.ARPA id a014869; 27 Nov 84 22:46 EST From: bob@harpo.uucp Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: BASCOM on Apple ][? Message-ID: <2630@harpo.UUCP> Date: 26 Nov 84 18:29:57 GMT Sender: bob@harpo.uucp Nf-ID: #N::30800007:000:80 Nf-From: !bob Nov 26 13:29:00 1984 To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Reply-To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Does ABSCOM, the Microsoft Mbasic compiler, run on an Apple 2 with softcard?
The System Postmaster <postman@Aerospace.ARPA> (11/29/84)
===== POSTMAN output follows ===== "overman": not delivered (unknown user) ===== unsent message follows ===== Received: FROM AMSAA.ARPA BY USC-ISIF.ARPA WITH TCP ; 27 Nov 84 23:23:16 PST Received: From brl-tgr.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 28 Nov 84 1:45 EST Received: from usenet by BRL-TGR.ARPA id a017265; 28 Nov 84 1:40 EST From: sources-request@genrad.uucp Newsgroups: net.wanted.sources,net.micro.cpm Subject: Termcap Wanted Message-ID: <509@genrad.UUCP> Date: 27 Nov 84 14:10:08 GMT Sender: john@genrad.uucp Xref: genrad net.wanted.sources:135 net.micro.cpm:3369 To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Reply-To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA [ I am forwarding this request. Please do not reply to this article - reply instead to the author - John Nelson mod.sources] From: decvax!ucbvax!sdcsvax!sdcc3!ee173xdv (tommy) Does anybody have a termcap available for Morrow Designs(II) (MD20) ? if so, would you please post it or forward it to me. Thanks in advance. Tommy
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From: mwm@ea.uucp
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: NC - a new backup copy program
Message-ID: <7800008@ea.UUCP>
Date: 24 Nov 84 23:27:00 GMT
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Nf-From: ea!mwm Nov 24 17:27:00 1984
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Reply-To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
NC looks neat. Would somebody in ARPANet land mail me a copy, or post it
to {net,mod}.sources?
Thanx,
<mikeThe System Postmaster <postman@Aerospace.ARPA> (11/29/84)
===== POSTMAN output follows ===== "overman": not delivered (unknown user) ===== unsent message follows ===== Received: FROM AMSAA.ARPA BY USC-ISIF.ARPA WITH TCP ; 28 Nov 84 18:31:35 PST Received: From brl-tgr.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 28 Nov 84 20:51 EST Received: from usenet by BRL-TGR.ARPA id a002544; 28 Nov 84 20:27 EST From: Jan Steinman <jans@mako.uucp> Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: Re: Re: Is this really Mr. Pournelle? (ad naseum!) Message-ID: <377@mako.UUCP> Date: 27 Nov 84 18:30:17 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Reply-To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA In article <iddic.1858> rick@iddic.UUCP (Rick Coates) writes: >Is this really from Jerry Pournelle, science fiction author and columnist... >I find it hard to believe that a professional writer would put out something >like this, even to a limited public audience... C'mon, Rick! Lighten up! Do you run everything you post to the net through spelling checkers, grammer analyzers, etc., or are you merely blessed with perfect mastery of the English language? I don't think it is fair that Jerry is singled out for a lot of criticism simply because one might recognize his name. (Or, perhaps be envious of his fame?) And I really don't think it is fair that we waste all the net.micro.cpm'ers time with this subject! All future criticism of Pournelle to net.flame, agreed! -- :::::: Jan Steinman Box 1000, MS 61-161 (w)503/685-2843 :::::: :::::: tektronix!tekecs!jans Wilsonville, OR 97070 (h)503/657-7703 ::::::
The System Postmaster <postman@Aerospace.ARPA> (11/29/84)
===== POSTMAN output follows ===== "overman": not delivered (unknown user) ===== unsent message follows ===== Received: FROM AMSAA.ARPA BY USC-ISIF.ARPA WITH TCP ; 28 Nov 84 19:17:55 PST Received: From brl-tgr.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 28 Nov 84 20:51 EST Received: from usenet by BRL-TGR.ARPA id a002532; 28 Nov 84 20:26 EST From: Rick Coates <rick@iddic.uucp> Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: Is this really Mr. Pournelle? Message-ID: <1858@iddic.UUCP> Date: 27 Nov 84 17:49:24 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Reply-To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Is this really from Jerry Pournelle, science fiction author and columnist in Byte Magazine - or is someone on the net impersonating him? (Remember moscvax, et al). > Relay-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/12/84; site iddic.UUCP > Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA > Path: iddic!orca!tektronix!hplabs!hpda!fortune!amdcad!decwrl!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!internet!"Jerry E. Pournelle" <POURNE@mit-mc.ARPA> > From: "Jerry E. Pournelle" <POURNE@mit-mc.ARPA> > Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm > Subject: Microsystems/Tech Journal > Message-ID: <5930@brl-tgr.ARPA> > Date: 20 Nov 84 10:20:01 GMT > Date-Received: 23 Nov 84 07:51:06 GMT > Sender: news@brl-tgr.ARPA > Organization: Ballistic Research Lab > Lines: 5 > > I met Susan Gelpert-Cole, Ph.D., one of the editors of PC Tech > Journal at COMDEX. She's sharp. The magazine may not be a bad > buy. Me, I never saw one before. Obviously fyou don't care > for PC you won't want it since it is a captive; Susan says they > do not write about PClones even yet already. I find it hard to believe that a professional writer would put out something like this, even to a limited public audience. Several of the other recent submissions from POURNE@mit-mc are similar in English quality. Typos are one thing, 'even yet already' is another. Rick Coates ...!tektronix!iddic!rick (csnet has problems at our site)
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From: Darrel VanBuer <darrelj@sdcrdcf.uucp>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: simel20 (really SIMTEL-20.ARPA)
Message-ID: <1495@sdcrdcf.UUCP>
Date: 26 Nov 84 15:35:32 GMT
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Simtel-20 is a TOPS-20 system on the ARPAnet. If you are on USENET, but not
ARPAnet, you can't access the CP/M archives there. (From Arpanet, they
accept FTP anonymous logins, but most APRAnauts probably know this)
--
Darrel J. Van Buer, PhD
System Development Corp.
2500 Colorado Ave
Santa Monica, CA 90406
(213)820-4111 x5449
...{allegra,burdvax,cbosgd,hplabs,ihnp4,orstcs,sdcsvax,ucla-cs,akgua}
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VANBUER@USC-ECL.ARPAThe System Postmaster <postman@Aerospace.ARPA> (11/29/84)
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From: Chuck McManis <cem@intelca.uucp>
Newsgroups: net.micro,net.micro.cpm
Subject: JRT Again
Message-ID: <452@intelca.UUCP>
Date: 27 Nov 84 18:44:50 GMT
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
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In the latest copy of Dr. Dobbs Journal there is a letter from an irate
person who claims to have ordered Modula-2 from JRT (for 102.95) and
was assurred it would be shipped "the next day". Well we know what happened
right? Its been 3 months, no one answers the phone at JRT and when he sent
them a letter reiceipt requested, Good ol' Mr. Tyson signed for it. Draw your
own conclusions, I personally don't wish to invest in that company.
It does raise two questions though.
1.) Has anyone heard of a Full Modula-2 for Z80 based systems ? Borland is
working on one but it seems there is practically no support for the
8 Bit people out there. They expect theirs "sometime" after the MS-DOS
one comes out (currently Q1 85)
2.) If not Modula, how about a good concurrent PASCAL?
--Chuck
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{ucbvax,hao}!hplabs/ friends, or my avocado plant. :-}The System Postmaster <postman@Aerospace.ARPA> (11/29/84)
===== POSTMAN output follows ===== "overman": not delivered (unknown user) ===== unsent message follows ===== Received: FROM AMSAA.ARPA BY USC-ISIF.ARPA WITH TCP ; 29 Nov 84 01:31:25 PST Received: From brl-tgr.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 29 Nov 84 4:01 EST Received: from usenet by BRL-TGR.ARPA id a009490; 29 Nov 84 3:54 EST From: Howard Johnson <howard@cyb-eng.uucp> Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: Re: access to SIMTEL-20.ARPA Message-ID: <467@cyb-eng.UUCP> Date: 28 Nov 84 21:45:05 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Reply-To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA () > Simtel-20 is a TOPS-20 system on the ARPAnet. If you are on USENET, but not > ARPAnet, you can't access the CP/M archives there. (From Arpanet, they > accept FTP anonymous logins, but most APRAnauts probably know this) Does this mean that the ONLY way to access SIMTEL-20 is via the ARPAnet? -- Howard Johnson Cyb Systems, Austin, TX ..!{gatech,harvard,ihnp4,nbires,noao,seismo}!ut-sally!cyb-eng!howard
The System Postmaster <postman@Aerospace.ARPA> (11/29/84)
===== POSTMAN output follows ===== "overman": not delivered (unknown user) ===== unsent message follows ===== Received: FROM AMSAA.ARPA BY USC-ISIF.ARPA WITH TCP ; 29 Nov 84 11:45:16 PST Received: From brl-tgr.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 29 Nov 84 12:32 EST Received: from usenet by BRL-TGR.ARPA id a018667; 29 Nov 84 11:58 EST From: Charlie Martin <crm@duke.uucp> Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: Re: Is this really Mr. Pournelle? Message-ID: <5097@duke.UUCP> Date: 28 Nov 84 15:27:30 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Reply-To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA If you think Jerry's typing etc is bad, you should get a letter from Ray Bradbury someday! Think about it -- if you are ripping out one-shot code, do you always use the best coding techniques you possibly can? These folks get PAID for good writing, and it's only reasonable that they would not take great care with unpaid quick notes! -- What is the sound of one hand, clapping? Toop, toop, toop. Charlie Martin (...mcnc!duke!crm)
The System Postmaster <postman@Aerospace.ARPA> (11/30/84)
===== POSTMAN output follows ===== "overman": not delivered (unknown user) ===== unsent message follows ===== Received: FROM AMSAA.ARPA BY USC-ISIF.ARPA WITH TCP ; 29 Nov 84 19:45:15 PST Received: From brl-tgr.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 29 Nov 84 21:47 EST Received: from usenet by BRL-TGR.ARPA id a028724; 29 Nov 84 21:41 EST From: greenber@acf4.uucp Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: Re: Is this really Mr. Pournelle? Message-ID: <10000014@acf4.UUCP> Date: 29 Nov 84 15:36:00 GMT Nf-ID: #R:iddic:-185800:acf4:10000014:000:226 Nf-From: acf4!greenber Nov 29 10:36:00 1984 To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Reply-To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA <> As an aside.....DR. Pournelle gives an ARPA net address that we, unfortuneately, do not have access to. What is POURNE@MIT-MC.ARPA's UUCP address??? Ross M. Greenberg @ NYU ----> allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber <----
The System Postmaster <postman@Aerospace.ARPA> (11/30/84)
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From: Charley Wingate <mangoe@umcp-cs.uucp>
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: Undeliverable mail -- An Epidemic
Message-ID: <1483@umcp-cs.UUCP>
Date: 30 Nov 84 03:51:45 GMT
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We are being barraged by articles like the following: (Someone want to fix/
explain the problem?)
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Subject: Undeliverable mail
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From: mwm@ea.uucp
Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm
Subject: Re: NC - a new backup copy program
Message-ID: <7800008@ea.UUCP>
Date: 24 Nov 84 23:27:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:brl-tgr:-591600:ea:7800008:000:111
Nf-From: ea!mwm Nov 24 17:27:00 1984
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Reply-To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
NC looks neat. Would somebody in ARPANet land mail me a copy, or post it
to {net,mod}.sources?
Thanx,
<mike
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Charley Wingate umcp-cs!mangoeThe System Postmaster <postman@Aerospace.ARPA> (11/30/84)
===== POSTMAN output follows ===== "overman": not delivered (unknown user) ===== unsent message follows ===== Received: FROM AMSAA.ARPA BY USC-ISIF.ARPA WITH TCP ; 29 Nov 84 23:28:05 PST Received: From brl-tgr.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 30 Nov 84 1:45 EST Received: from usenet by BRL-TGR.ARPA id a002707; 30 Nov 84 1:40 EST From: Phil Thompson <phil@westcsr.uucp> Newsgroups: net.micro,net.micro.cpm,net.wanted Subject: Copy of Z80.MAC wanted Message-ID: <200@westcsr.UUCP> Date: 29 Nov 84 13:25:49 GMT Xref: mcvax net.micro:3872 net.micro.cpm:1817 net.wanted:1611 To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Reply-To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA <> If anybody has a copy of this file (that defines Z80 op-codes as macros for use with RMAC) would they mail it to me please. Alternatively some indication as to where I might find a listing of it. Thanks, Phil Thompson ..!ukc!west44!westcsr!phil
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From: Chuck McManis <cem@intelca.uucp>
Newsgroups: net.micro,net.micro.cpm
Subject: IBM CP/M Format
Message-ID: <453@intelca.UUCP>
Date: 29 Nov 84 16:34:33 GMT
Xref: genrad net.micro:9372 net.micro.cpm:3391
To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
Reply-To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA
The version of MS-DOS I have for the Zenith 150 comes with a utility
called RDCPM.COM. The purpose of which is to read CP/M-86 files on the
floppy. The $65,535 question is what is the format for this floppy
Specifically :
How Many Bytes/Sector ?
Interleave Facter ?
# of tracks before the Directory ?
A Parameter Block for it would be ideal.
Total storage of this format ? 180/320/360K
--Chuck
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{ucbvax,hao}!hplabs/ friends, or my avocado plant. :-}The System Postmaster <postman@Aerospace.ARPA> (11/30/84)
===== POSTMAN output follows ===== "overman": not delivered (unknown user) ===== unsent message follows ===== Received: FROM AMSAA.ARPA BY USC-ISIF.ARPA WITH TCP ; 30 Nov 84 03:25:54 PST Received: From brl-tgr.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 30 Nov 84 5:50 EST Received: from usenet by BRL-TGR.ARPA id a005216; 30 Nov 84 5:42 EST From: Hugh Redelmeier <hugh@hcrvax.uucp> Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: Re: Need Kaypro technical help Message-ID: <1539@hcrvax.UUCP> Date: 28 Nov 84 20:17:17 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Reply-To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Anyone who wants to hack on a Kaypro should read the magazine "Micro Cornucopia" out of Bend, Oregon. They cover the Big Board and derivatives (Xerox 820, Kaypro, BB II, ...). They also are starting to cover non-Z80 single-board machines. They sell schematics for Kaypros (they may not yet have schematics for the new models). Kaypro sells the source for the BIOS, ROMs, and Kaypro-specific utilities for about $100 (called the "Tinkerkit"). Micro Cornucopia is fun to read. It reminds me of the old Dr. Dobbs.