[net.micro.cpm] Need HELP with SUBMIT

jhw@tty3b.UUCP (9-2-83"James H. 3221i) (01/21/85)

Please Help!!  I have been frustrated for some time with the SUBMIT
function of CP/M.  I have a Vector Graphic 1600 system running CP/M
2.20.

Recently I was able to get SUBMIT to do exactly what it is supposed
to do.  How ever if I try to do exactly the same thing on another
disk, all I get is some 'whirrring' of the disk drive then the system
prompt and then the drive stops and that's it!

In the back of my mind I seem to recall an article about some
SUBMIT bugs - does anyone recall.  Thanks for any help.

 					Jim West
					ihnp4!tty3b!jhw
     

rzdz@fluke.UUCP (Rick Chinn) (01/25/85)

> Please Help!!  I have been frustrated for some time with the SUBMIT
> function of CP/M.  I have a Vector Graphic 1600 system running CP/M
> 2.20.
> 

I don't think that you're the only person that submit has chosen to abuse. I
regularly have trouble with it, to wit: write a submit file, run it, it runs,
make one change, the whole thing bombs. Look at submit file with ddt, can't
find any bogus characters...give up...(if I had a dime for every hour I've
wasted, I could go to dinner at a *nice* restaurant)

I don't use submit anymore. I use microshell instead. It looks more like unix
anyway, and I've never had trouble with it not wanting to do what's in the
batch file. I also have another shell-type program called clip that does the
same sort of thing, and allows conditionals, more like a shell script would.
(neither are public domain, they're commercial programs)

If someone out there in net.land knows how to make submit do something
useful, please let me know. I'm very tempted to do this:

    a> era submit.com

Rick Chinn
John Fluke Mfg. Co MS 232E
PO Box C9090 Everett WA 98206

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(206) 356-5232

p.s. I tried mail, but UUCP sez nocando.

Jerry E. Pournelle <POURNE@Mit-Mc.ARPA> (01/27/85)

It's possibly no hlp to know this but the CompuPro 8/16 is able
to use SUBMIT on any disk (or any user, or any sectin of the
segmented hard disk).  I am not sure how this is done since Tony
has been making CP/M do things for me that apparently it won't
do for anyone else, and after a while I get used to it...

dag@tellab2.UUCP (Donald Graft) (01/30/85)

Please note that the currently shipped version of MicroShell supports
shell programming through variables, conditionals, and user input.  It is
vastly superior to clip.

gino@voder.UUCP (Gino Bloch) (02/01/85)

[submit this line to the bug catcher]

> It's possibly no hlp to know this but the CompuPro 8/16 is able
> to use SUBMIT on any disk (or any user, or any sectin of the
> segmented hard disk).  I am not sure how this is done since Tony
> has been making CP/M do things for me that apparently it won't
> do for anyone else, and after a while I get used to it...
There is a patch to submit.com (or BDOS or CCP or ...) that allows submit
to use any drive.  If no one else posts it and people want it, I'll try to
find my source.  I must warn you, though, that I called my home my "chaostle"
long before reading about Jerry P's "Chaos Manor", so anyone else who has
the document, please post.
-- 
Gene E. Bloch (...!nsc!voder!gino)
Support Bulgarian gajda players.

grayson@uiucuxc.UUCP (02/01/85)

The problem with submit is documented in the cpm manual.  "If the submit
function is performed on any disk other than drive A, the commands are not
processed until the disk is inerted into drive A and the system reboots."

The problem is that the $$$.SUB file is created on B:, say, but the CCP
looks only on A: for it.  There is a patch which fixes it and is easy to
apply - I might be able to dig it out for you if you send me mail, but
it would take a while, since now I use ZEX exclusively (you could use
ZEX or EX - they are memory-based submt type programs).

drick@hplvle.UUCP (drick) (02/20/85)

re: JEP's CP/M-86 BIOS

MY version of CompuPro's CP/M-86 won't even run submit out of
other user areas on the A drive!  Does CompuPro *ever* ship these
wonderful enhancements to anyone but JEP?

Still waiting for the TMX BIOS,

David L. Rick
...!hplabs!hplvla!hplvle!drick

[ These opinions are certainly not those of HP.  I'm sure HP
*has* no opinion concerning CP/M-86.]