SECRIST%OAK.SAINET.MFENET@LLL-MFE.ARPA (04/26/85)
The following is the entry from our site's EMACS termcap file (under VAX/VMS)
that I have used successfully on a Kaypro 2. They are virtually identical
except for the last entry "dl=\ER:".
"dl=" is for the "delete current line" function, which moves all lines below
it up by one. The "\ER:" means escape-R, with the '\' and ':' being
delimiters.
la|ADM3A|adm3a|3a|lsi adm3a:\
:am:bs:cm=\E=%+ %+ :cl=^Z:co#80:ho=^^:li#24:ma=j^Jk^P^K^Pl \
:nd=^L:up=^K:\
:ce=^X:cs=^W:
lx|kaypro:\
:am:bs:cm=\E=%+ %+ :cl=3^Z:co#80:ho=^^:li#24:ma=j^Jk^P^K^Pl \
:nd=^L:up=^K:\
:ce=^X:cs=^W:dl=\ER:
I hope this is helpful to you. -- rcs
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SECRIST%OAK.SAInet.MFEnet@LLL-MFE.Arpa * Science Application Intl. Corp towson@AMSAA.ARPA (SECAD) (04/28/85)
Richard et al - The string "ma=...etc" in the termcaps you posted for the
ADM-3A and kaypro appears to be in error. The "ma" string is an "arrow-key
map" for use with the screen editor "vi", version 2 only. This string is
now essentially obsolete. Nevertheless, the string you posted "j^Jk^P^K^Pl"
appears to have two problems: it contains a printing character "j" as the
first character, and the field-separator ":" is missing from the end. It
seems that having a printing character as the first character issued by an
arrow key would be extremely confusing, since it could not be distinguished
from the same character in text until a following key or keys had been
examined. This would cause that particular printing character not to be
echoed to the screen until the following character or characters had been
entered. The ADM-3A termcap entry for our local UNIX machines gives just
"^K^P" for the "ma" string. This is, I admit, a minor point since the "ma"
string will be rarely (if ever) used. A more significant apparent error is
in the string "cs=...etc". Our local UNIX documentation has this string
being used to change the scrolling region, which is quite different from
"clear-to-end-of-display" ("cd"), which seems to have been the intent.
Of possibly more interest is the following termcap for the Kaypro-II,
taken from our local "/etc/termcap" file.
# KayPro II from Richard G Turner <rturner at Darcom-Hq.ARPA>
# I've found that my KayPro II, running MDM730, continues to emulate an
# ADM-3A terminal, just like I was running TERM.COM. On our 4.2 UNIX
# system the following termcap entry works well:
# I have noticed a couple of minor glitches, but nothing I can't work
# around.
k2|kaypro|KayPro II:\
:am:bs:li#24:co#80:\
:cm=\E=%+ %+ :\
:ho=^^:cl=1^Z:\
:nd=^L:up=^K:do=^J:\
:ce=^X:cd=^W:\
:al=\EE:dl=\ER:
I have no personal experience with this termcap, and I don't know why there
are strings for moving the cursor right, up and down ("nd", "up" and "do"
respectively), but not one to move the cursor left ("le"). But the added
string "al" (add line) is particularly desirable for use with screen editors
via low-speed communications, as it allows local re-writing of a substantial
portion of the screen, and you don't have to wait for this re-writing to be
done at low speed from the remote machine. Perhaps Richard Turner, the author
(who receives info-cpm), will comment on the missing "le" string, and also
on whether his shorter (one millisecond versus three) delay for the clear-
screen ("cl") string has caused any problems.
General note: Termcaps seem awfully cryptic and confusing at first
encounter, but they are really not difficult to comprehend PROVIDED you have
a good set of instructions. I will be happy to send such a set of instructions
to anyone who wants it. But please send requests to me, and not to the whole
list unless absolutely necessary.
DaveRichard G. Turner@AMC-HQ.ARPA, PERI-ET@AMC-HQ.ARPA, (04/28/85)
Dave, Sorry, but I am not the author of the Kaypro II termcap entry that you credited me with. I received that from someone else on the net, and found it useful. I'll look around and see if I can determine who sent it, but I'm afraid the source is lost. rick
brian@sdcsvax.UUCP (Brian Kantor) (05/01/85)
Be aware that later models of the Kaypro seem to have changed the way their video controller works - the original Ferguson model was all TTL and faster than all get-out --- but the later Kaypros can't scroll or position the cursor at any sort of reasonable rate. We have two Kaypro termcaps here at UCSD - the fast and the slow one. The slow one has 100mS delays on cursor positioning, line addition, deletion, and other miscellaneous things. So if you're having troubles with the Kaypro, try slowing things down. Brian Kantor UC San Diego decvax\ brian@ucsd.arpa akgua >--- sdcsvax --- brian ucbvax/ Kantor@Nosc