cpmlist@AMSAA.ARPA (info-cpm-request) (10/23/85)
Fellow CP/Mers - The following messages, all correctly addressed to info-cpm, were delivered to the wrong address by our mailer. Must be getting warmed up for Halloween. Let's try again... Dave ----- Forwarded message # 1: Received: from mit-multics.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a012510; 15 Oct 85 8:33 EDT Received: from AMSAA by MIT-MULTICS.ARPA TCP; 15-Oct-1985 08:38:07-edt Received: from ames-vmsb.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a009732; 15 Oct 85 7:07 EDT Date: 11 Oct 85 16:46:00 PST From: nep.pgelhausen@AMES-VMSB.ARPA Subject: --- re: find first/next --- To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Reply-To: nep.pgelhausen@AMES-VMSB.ARPA I tried sending this directly, but the mailer had some problems w/ what I thought the address was, so re. the find/next problem: If you can print the names properly, I would suggest COPYING each name as find next finds them, then after all names have been found use your list of file names to open each of them. -Richard Hartman max.hartman@ames-vmsb ------ ------ ----- Forwarded message # 2: Received: from mit-multics.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a012587; 15 Oct 85 8:34 EDT Received: from AMSAA by MIT-MULTICS.ARPA TCP; 15-Oct-1985 08:39:05-edt Received: from brl-tgr.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a009773; 15 Oct 85 7:09 EDT Received: from usenet by TGR.BRL.ARPA id a007812; 13 Oct 85 2:53 EDT From: Tom Almy <toma%tekchips.uucp@BRL.ARPA> Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: Re: Looking for WATFOR compiler Message-ID: <283@tekchips.UUCP> Date: 10 Oct 85 14:31:32 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA In article <1953@brl-tgr.ARPA> Kushall.henr@XEROX.ARPA writes: >WATFOR stands for WATerlooFORtran and is an interactive Fortran interputer. >It was developed by Waterloo University in Canada. > >The first machine to use it was the Commadore 9000 (Super PET). >I don't know if ever was made available for any other machines. > >Ed Gee, I used WATFOR in 1968 on an IBM 360. They (Univ. of Waterloo) also released in about that time frame WATFIV (WATerloo Fortran IV) and a terrific Assembler. I was very impressed with their compilers. Tom ----- Forwarded message # 3: Received: from mit-multics.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a014071; 15 Oct 85 9:02 EDT Received: from AMSAA by MIT-MULTICS.ARPA TCP; 15-Oct-1985 09:06:19-edt Received: from brl-tgr.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id ab09773; 15 Oct 85 7:09 EDT Received: from usenet by TGR.BRL.ARPA id a013920; 13 Oct 85 14:51 EDT From: Chuck McManis <cem%intelca.uucp@BRL.ARPA> Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: Re: A way to read 48 tpi disks on 96 tpi drives? Message-ID: <120@intelca.UUCP> Date: 11 Oct 85 15:21:24 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA > I am getting a new computer and need to decide whether to get 96 tpi drives > or 48 tpi drives. I know I get double the storage with 96 tpi, but I also > give up disk compatability with them don't I? Is there a way I could > read/write a 48 tpi disks on a 96 tpi machine. (The system is question > is the new SB180 system described in Byte.) Can other systems write disks > for these drives? The Ampro can read 48TPI disks on 96TPI drives, and since Joe Wright wrote the BIOS for the SB180 and is/was heavily involved in the Ampro software I suspect the SB180 will also support this capability. Another solution is to spend the $20 for a single sided 48TPI drive and use it as a spare for compatibility purposes. --Chuck -- - - - D I S C L A I M E R - - - {ihnp4,fortune}!dual\ All opinions expressed herein are my {qantel,idi}-> !intelca!cem own and not those of my employer, my {ucbvax,hao}!hplabs/ friends, or my avocado plant. :-} ----- Forwarded message # 4: Received: from mit-multics.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a015722; 15 Oct 85 9:29 EDT Received: from AMSAA by MIT-MULTICS.ARPA TCP; 15-Oct-1985 09:34:00-edt Received: from csnet-pdn-gw by AMSAA.ARPA id a010285; 15 Oct 85 7:27 EDT Received: from gte-labs by csnet-relay.csnet id ab10495; 15 Oct 85 5:24 EDT Received: by bunny.UUCP (4.12/5.03) id AA15284; Mon, 14 Oct 85 14:06:16 edt for Date: Mon, 14 Oct 85 14:06:16 edt From: Alan Gunderson <asg0%gte-labs.csnet@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA> To: info-cpm@amsaa.csnet Subject: SB180 & Tandon half-height drives You can get one Tandon half-height drive to work with a SB180 system by jumpering it so that the drive is selected all the time. It should also be jumpered so that the 'Motor On' function is NOT controlled by the drive selection, i.e., the seperate 'Motor On' signal line is used. Having the drive selected all the time precludes the use of multiple drives. There appears to be a strange timing incompatability between the disk controller on the SB180 and the Tandon drives. I think I may have to peel the drive select lines coming out of the disk controller off and run them into some special circuitry and then into the Tandon drives to be able to use multiple drives. For now, I at least can boot ZRDOS and make back ups. Be informed that the Tandon drives don't support the READY line. You must jumper the JP6 selection on the SB180. I installed a switch on this jumper, so that I can get to the SB180 monitor. When JP6 is wired permanently, the monitor thinks the drive is always ready, and thus tries to autoboot. You can fix this be reburning a new monitor PROM, but I haven't gotten around to this yet. ====Alan Gunderson uucp: ...!seismo!harvard!bunny!asg0 csnet: asg0%gte-labs.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa ----- Forwarded message # 5: Received: from mit-multics.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id a017584; 15 Oct 85 10:16 EDT Received: from AMSAA by MIT-MULTICS.ARPA TCP; 15-Oct-1985 10:20:27-edt Received: from brl-tgr.arpa by AMSAA.ARPA id aa09773; 15 Oct 85 7:09 EDT Received: from usenet by TGR.BRL.ARPA id a009858; 13 Oct 85 5:58 EDT From: Bob Halloran <bobh%pedsgd.uucp@BRL.ARPA> Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: Re: A way to read 48 tpi disks on 96 tpi drives? Message-ID: <312@pedsgd.UUCP> Date: 11 Oct 85 12:14:20 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Organization : Perkin-Elmer DSG, Tinton Falls NJ In article <2229@sdcc6.UUCP> ir320@sdcc6.UUCP (ir320) writes: >I am getting a new computer and need to decide whether to get 96 tpi drives >or 48 tpi drives. I know I get double the storage with 96 tpi, but I also >give up disk compatability with them don't I? Is there a way I could >read/write a 48 tpi disks on a 96 tpi machine. (The system is question >is the new SB180 system described in Byte.) Can other systems write disks >for these drives? A 96tpi drive CAN read disks written on a 48tpi drive; the second part of the construction article for that same SB180 implies as much. The BIOS needs some extra code to realize it must double-step for these disk formats. The major problem as I understand it is that in writing, the 96tpi drive lays down a narrower 'track' than the 48tpi drive (makes sense), which may either get lost against a previously written 'wide' track if the disk has been used before in a 48tpi drive, or simply be too narrow for the 48tpi drive's head to get a useful signal from. Hope this helps. Bob Halloran Sr MTS, Perkin-Elmer DSG ============================================================================= UUCP: {decvax, ucbvax, most Action Central}!vax135\ {topaz, pesnta, princeton}!petsd!pedsgd!bobh ARPA: petsd!pedsgd!bobh@topaz USPS: 106 Apple St M/S 305, Tinton Falls NJ 07724 DDD: (201) 758-7000 Disclaimer: My opinions are my own. Quote: "It's Reagan's fault. Everything's Reagan's fault. Floods... volcanoes... herpes... Reagan's fault." -- Editor Overbeek, Bloom Beacon ----- End of forwarded messages