[net.micro.cpm] Pascal for CP/M?

Matt%UMass.BITNET@wiscvm.ARPA (03/12/86)

Hi,

Does anyone know of a good public domain (or freeware) Pascal compiler
for CP/M? If so, please let me know how I can obtain it. Send a letter
to this file or to Matt%UMass.BITNET@wiscvm.ARPA. Thanks!

                                                Matt Kimmel

treid@MITRE.ARPA (03/12/86)

Matt:

I know of no "robust" PD Pascal compiler - there are several based on
the Pascal0 in Algorithms + Data Structures = Programs by Niklaus Wirth
but they are small subsets.  Sport the $49 (originally - now more) for
Turbo Pascal by Borland.  There is a ton of PD programs written for it
on various bulletin boards.

rbloom@apg-1.ARPA (03/12/86)

I have to second Tom Reid's answer about Pascals - Turbo is the best
available and is cheap besides.  If you run a IBM-clone it is very
cheap - of the order of $29 from mail order houses.

On the other hand, if it's CP/M-80 that you're looking for not CP/M-88
or -86; it a bit more expensive.  I went through a long painfull  process
to buy a CP/M-80 version at a reasonable price - best I could do was
$59 from Programmers Shop.  (Good place to deal with - most places don't
know what CP/M is - one dodo even asked if it was IBM-compatible!)

Alternately, dealling directly with Borland is not too bad either - if
I were to do it all again I would probably deal direct and hange the hassle.
BTW, it really is as good as all the reviews say.  I'm not a pro programmer,
had to buy it for a college course I'm taking as I couldn't get to
the supplied computer...

(I hesitate to say this, but there *is* a P.D. Pascal compiler in the
simtel20 archives SIG/M vol something-or-the-other.  It is JRT Pascal and
I've been told it's not worth the 'cost' of downloading.  I haven't tried
it, and know of no one that likes or uses it.)

tom@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA (03/12/86)

Hi:

Why use "free" Pascal?  Turbo Pascal is:

1       cheap.
2       reasonably well documented and supported by Borland.
3       very well Known by all and sundry.
4       fast and compact.

	If Turbo Pascal doesn't suit you, there is always 'NEVADA' Pascal by
Ellis Computing; however, this Pascal is somewhat simplistic and requires a
separate editor to create source code - where Turbo Pascal provides a nice
little full screen editor.  Ellis technical support ranges from nill to worse
than none; all in all I don't recommend them.  Turbo Pascal can be optained
with tutorial documentation and disks for under $100.00.

Why go with the obscure and generic when you can have a 'standard' without
mortgaging your life away?

Trevor McCarthy

The MITRE Corporation

jay@ethos.UUCP (Jay Denebeim) (03/25/86)

	It's been awhile since I heard this, but from what I recall, Ellis
Computing bought the rights to JRT Pascal when JRT folded.  Also, contrary to
the previous message, JRT is *NOT* public domain.  The documentation DID
however say that you could give copies to your friends, so I guess it comes
down to about the same thing.  As a side note, the JRT folks were the ones to
come up with the idea of an inexpensive compiler.  They failed in the
marketplace because even though the price was right $29.95, the program wasn't
worth anything.  It is not a compiler, it's a pseudo-compiler, it goes to
P-Code like UCSD Pascal.  JRT is worth a try, especially if you can find it
locally, it did have some nice features.  Turbo however is a much better
compiler, it's fast and although it has some limitations, compiles to native
code.

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