[net.micro.cpm] BYE...

W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA (Keith Petersen) (06/10/86)

       For quite a while I've been trying to find a version of BYE which
    would run on my Apple II+.  Recently someone suggested that I try
    BYE507 and B5AS-1.INS.  I did.  It didn't work -- just froze up right
    after loading (didn't give the BYE messages or anything, just froze
    after loading from disk).

       I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR NEARLY THREE YEARS NOW . . . 
                                         ^^^^^ ^^^^^

       Surely there must be a II+ version around, otherwise what's the use
    of the versions that are currently being circulated? ...

Andrew, I have suggested on several occasions that you pick up the
telephone and call the author, Irv Hoff, at 415-948-2166.  Do I have
to pay for the call?

--Keith

T.MOORE%DEEP-THOUGHT@mit-eddie.ARPA (Andrew Moore) (06/11/86)

Keith -- please forward to RCPM-Sysops if possible

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   For quite a while I've been trying to find a version of BYE which would
run on my Apple II+.  Recently someone suggested that I try BYE507 and
B5AS-1.INS.  I did.  It didn't work -- just froze up right after loading
(didn't give the BYE messages or anything, just froze after loading from
disk).

   I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR NEARLY THREE YEARS NOW . . . 
                                     ^^^^^ ^^^^^


   Surely there must be a II+ version around, otherwise what's the use of the
versions that are currently being circulated?  My configuration is as follows:

   Apple II+, 64K
   MicroSoft Softcard
   Apple CP/M 2.23
   Super Serial Card with USR 2400 modem

   No version of BYE has worked for me in the three years I've been searching.
Yes, I change the CCP length to 9 for the non-standard CCP length, etc.  No
luck; nothing but frustration.  PLEASE -- if anyone can help, if anyone knows
of an RCP/M running BYE under this configuration, contact me.

-drew
 arpa: MOORE%MIT-EECS@MIT-MC.ARPA
 uucp: ...mit-eddie!moore
   us: Box 121, North Quincy, MA  02171
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T.MOORE%DEEP-THOUGHT@mit-eddie.ARPA (Andrew Moore) (06/11/86)

>Andrew, I have suggested on several occasions that you pick up the
>telephone and call the author, Irv Hoff, at 415-948-2166.  Do I have
>to pay for the call?
>
>--Keith

Keith (and all),
   Numerous times I have picked up the phone and called authors of
various BYEs and inserts, and do you know how much money I have
wasted?  Flame mode off please; I was just a little frustrated,
with what I think was good reason.

   In any case, these have been the two main problems.  First, the
B5AS-1 insert at Simtel20 (and I assume at other locations) does
not even recognize that there is a 2000H offset in the CCP under
MicroSoft CP/M.  BYE had been trying to read from and write to
the area 2000H lower than the true modem port.  I'll revise B5AS-1
shortly.  It appears that it was never tested; there's no way it
could work as distributed.  Second, the Super Serial Card does
strange things with carrier detect, and BYE requires that the cable
be rewired.  The explanation as to how to do this in the insert is
very ambiguous.

   So the problem has been in the insert (as I suspected, but from
there I had been clueless), and not in BYE.  I now have a working
copy of BYE for the II+/SSC/MicroSoft CP/M that runs more or less
fine at 300/1200 (and I assume 2400; just need someone to call in
and test it), the only problem being that upon exit to CP/M the
SSC resets itself to its default baud rate (but this is easily
solved and explained in the insert).

   Thanks for your help (Keith and Irv) -- anyone who wants assistance
in setting up BYE for this configuration, drop me a note.

-drew
 arpa: MOORE%MIT-EECS@MIT-MC.ARPA
 uucp: ...mit-eddie!moore
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