W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA (Keith Petersen) (06/10/86)
For quite a while I've been trying to find a version of BYE which would run on my Apple II+. Recently someone suggested that I try BYE507 and B5AS-1.INS. I did. It didn't work -- just froze up right after loading (didn't give the BYE messages or anything, just froze after loading from disk). I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR NEARLY THREE YEARS NOW . . . ^^^^^ ^^^^^ Surely there must be a II+ version around, otherwise what's the use of the versions that are currently being circulated? ... Andrew, I have suggested on several occasions that you pick up the telephone and call the author, Irv Hoff, at 415-948-2166. Do I have to pay for the call? --Keith
T.MOORE%DEEP-THOUGHT@mit-eddie.ARPA (Andrew Moore) (06/11/86)
Keith -- please forward to RCPM-Sysops if possible ------ For quite a while I've been trying to find a version of BYE which would run on my Apple II+. Recently someone suggested that I try BYE507 and B5AS-1.INS. I did. It didn't work -- just froze up right after loading (didn't give the BYE messages or anything, just froze after loading from disk). I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR NEARLY THREE YEARS NOW . . . ^^^^^ ^^^^^ Surely there must be a II+ version around, otherwise what's the use of the versions that are currently being circulated? My configuration is as follows: Apple II+, 64K MicroSoft Softcard Apple CP/M 2.23 Super Serial Card with USR 2400 modem No version of BYE has worked for me in the three years I've been searching. Yes, I change the CCP length to 9 for the non-standard CCP length, etc. No luck; nothing but frustration. PLEASE -- if anyone can help, if anyone knows of an RCP/M running BYE under this configuration, contact me. -drew arpa: MOORE%MIT-EECS@MIT-MC.ARPA uucp: ...mit-eddie!moore us: Box 121, North Quincy, MA 02171 -------
T.MOORE%DEEP-THOUGHT@mit-eddie.ARPA (Andrew Moore) (06/11/86)
>Andrew, I have suggested on several occasions that you pick up the >telephone and call the author, Irv Hoff, at 415-948-2166. Do I have >to pay for the call? > >--Keith Keith (and all), Numerous times I have picked up the phone and called authors of various BYEs and inserts, and do you know how much money I have wasted? Flame mode off please; I was just a little frustrated, with what I think was good reason. In any case, these have been the two main problems. First, the B5AS-1 insert at Simtel20 (and I assume at other locations) does not even recognize that there is a 2000H offset in the CCP under MicroSoft CP/M. BYE had been trying to read from and write to the area 2000H lower than the true modem port. I'll revise B5AS-1 shortly. It appears that it was never tested; there's no way it could work as distributed. Second, the Super Serial Card does strange things with carrier detect, and BYE requires that the cable be rewired. The explanation as to how to do this in the insert is very ambiguous. So the problem has been in the insert (as I suspected, but from there I had been clueless), and not in BYE. I now have a working copy of BYE for the II+/SSC/MicroSoft CP/M that runs more or less fine at 300/1200 (and I assume 2400; just need someone to call in and test it), the only problem being that upon exit to CP/M the SSC resets itself to its default baud rate (but this is easily solved and explained in the insert). Thanks for your help (Keith and Irv) -- anyone who wants assistance in setting up BYE for this configuration, drop me a note. -drew arpa: MOORE%MIT-EECS@MIT-MC.ARPA uucp: ...mit-eddie!moore -------