[net.micro.cpm] Kaypro question

korn@CORY.BERKELEY.EDU (Peter "Arrgh" Korn) (08/01/86)

First off, many thanks to the many replies I've gotten re: my Plea for
help on a SuperBrain problem.  I'll be posting my results shortly (I'm
taking an alternate route to solve the problem).

And now for my question:  Is there a way to take a Kaypro 2/4 and modify
it to be IBM compatible?  I've heard rumors to this effect, but as
yet I've gotten no names of places that'll do it.

Thanks again,
Peter

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jay@ethos.UUCP (Jay Denebeim) (08/05/86)

	The answer to your question is 'sort of'.  SWP makes (made?) a piggy
back board that contained an 8088  and 256/512K of memory.  It gave you a ram
disk in Kaypro mode, and allowed you to run MS-DOS on the 8088.  NOTE this does
not mean IBM compatible.  It had no graphics, and the memory map doesn't look
at all like the IBM.  It will run MS-DOS software, not IBM software.  This
constitutes around 10% of the total IBM software.  WordStar 3.0 would run, but
not 3.3, DBase II, but not DBase III etc.  The reason for this is the IBM is
*SLOW* and people found the only way to get decient speed out of the beast  was
to blow the DOS away and drive the hardware directly, added to this MS-DOS has
no graphics support in it, and you'll see that not very much IBM software is
going to run on the thing.

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alford@ecsvax.UUCP (Ross Alford) (08/06/86)

Your question re Kaypro-->PClone modification is something I've 
wondered about.  The SWP board is more useful as a ramdisk than as
a MSDOS system--I have the 256k version, and it's great under CP/M,
but almost completely IBM-uncompatible, and there is very little
truly generic software around for MSDOS.  However, just because SWP
hasn't done it doesn't mean it can't be done:  A Kaypro provides
almost all of the parts you would need to build a PClone, except for
the motherboard--a nice sturdy case, power supply, keyboard (which
would need either modification or a tricky BIOS), two disk drives,
and an external-synch monitor.  It also has a large base of installed
systems, many of the owners of which are feeling that the world is
passing them by.  A clever hardware person ought to be able to install
one of these 'little-board' style all-in-one (serial, parallel
interfaces and pseudo color- or mono- graphics adapter all on the
board) motherboards in a Kaypro case for little more than the cost of 
the board.  A REALLY clever hardware/software person could probably
even build in Z80 support so the Kaypro could continue to fulfill
its original role.  I suspect that a kit of this sort could sell
briskly for around $400-500 and make someone a mint.  

Ross Alford
   ...mcnc!ecsvax!alford