guy (04/11/83)
Phoenix is going to resurrect herself? You don't mean that that's what CC
has in mind with Ms. Madelyne Prior? (Do you realize that this is the
*second* character CC had whose name is Maddy Prior? (The first was a little
girl in the Impossible Man Spider-Woman story)) His necrophilia is beginning
to get on my nerves...
Marvel's attitude towards mutants is a little extreme. I suspect Claremont
is beginning to stress the Evil Mutants side of the Hellfire Club a little
too much. One of the things I *liked* about the Hellfire Club is that they
were a bunch of rich and powerful bastards who just conveniently *happened*
to have super-powers. Sebastian Shaw doesn't strike me as the type who finds
being a mutant more than an extra convenience. I suspect if he couldn't go
beat up some super-hero he'd get his jollies planning an unfriendly corporate
takeover (sort of like Mr. Slackmeyer). Unlike Magneto, who CC has been trying
to portray as being not a nice guy but at least somewhat justified in his
nastiness (he was put in Auschwitz as a boy - I suspect because he was Jewish
or Gypsy, not because of being a mutant), Shaw, Frost, etc. are just greedy
SOBs who want to rule the world because they think they deserve it. Now, with
the Graphic Novel's bit about Pierce going anti-mutant crazy, he seems to be
trying to make them into yet another band of Evil Mutants. Mumble, mumble...
Oh well, there's always Teen Titans. "Golden Globes award", indeed.
Guy Harris
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----- News saved at Sun Apr 10 14:19:32 1983
Phoenix is going to resurrect herself? You don't mean that that's what CC
has in mind with Ms. Madelyne Prior? (Do you realize that this is the
*second* character CC had whose name is Maddy Prior? (The first was a little
girl in the Impossible Man Spider-Woman story)) His necrophilia is beginning
to get on my nerves...
Marvel's attitude towards mutants is a little extreme. I suspect Claremont
is beginning to stress the Evil Mutants side of the Hellfire Club a little
too much. One of the things I *liked* about the Hellfire Club is that they
were a bunch of rich and powerful bastards who just conveniently *happened*
to have super-powers. Sebastian Shaw doesn't strike me as the type who finds
being a mutant more than an extra convenience. I suspect if he couldn't go
beat up some super-hero he'd get his jollies planning an unfriendly corporate
takeover (sort of like Mark Slackmeyer's dad). Unlike Magneto, who CC has been
trying to portray as being not a nice guy but at least somewhat justified in
his nastiness (he was put in Auschwitz as a boy - I suspect because he was
Jewish or Gypsy, not because of being a mutant), Shaw, Frost, etc. are just
greedy SOBs who want to rule the world because they think they deserve it.
Now, with the Graphic Novel's bit about Pierce going anti-mutant crazy, he
seems to be trying to make them into yet another band of Evil Mutants.
Mumble, mumble... Oh well, there's always Teen Titans. "Golden Globes award",
indeed.
Guy Harris
{seismo,mcnc,we13}!rlgvax!guytim (04/11/83)
I am entirely disgusted by the coming resurrection of Phoenix. Claremont is not only telling a stupid story now, he is depriving the old story of any value it had by cheapening her death. On another topic, I recommend the new comics publishing company First Comics very highly. They are currently publishing: E-Man: A revival of an old Charlton Comics (or some equally unlikely firm) title. Pure parody, all the way through. The second and third issues of the new run were a parody of the X-Men Dark Phoenix story, and can only be described as brutally funny. Warp: An interesting tongue-in-cheek story, well drawn and written. Warp started as a play by Chicago's Organic Theater which tried to imitate the comics feeling on stage, and is now a comic book. The story is of Prince Cumulus, protector of Fen-Ra, formerly David something of Earth, his bemused reincarnation. Jon Sable, Freelance: A mercenary in New York in the present, without super-heroes. The realism makes the improbable storylines seem foolish at times, but still a good read. Soon, First will be coming out with: American Flagg by Howie Chaykin: All I have to go on is a picture in an ad; it looks like Flagg is a Government agent around 2076. Mike Grell's Starslayer: Formerly of Pacific Comics. No idea yet. I'd post an address, but I don't have one handy. Write me for it, or look in your local comic book direct-sales store. Tim Maroney
jj (04/11/83)
Well, the only Maddy Prior that I've ever heard of (since I haven't even seen a comic book for 15 years, if you don't count Dr. Atomic) is one who sings soprano for Steeleye Span, a (slightly defunct) English <but we'll forgive them that> folk/rock/traditional singing group. Dark Phoenix indeed!
guy (04/11/83)
That's what I was referring to; I suspect Claremont's sticking characters with
Maddy (or Madelyn) Prior as a name because he wants to make cutesy references
to Steeleye Span. I think one of Claremont's problems is that he has a
tendency to overuse the same bit; a minor example being the Maddy Prior bit,
and a major example being his obsession with Phoenix. Maybe it's time his
editor suggest that he lay off Phoenix and find something *new* to write
about...
Guy Harris
RLG Corporation
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