steven@qubix.UUCP (Steven Maurer) (05/10/84)
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[Bugs which now, I searched for still....]
Marvel Comics recently contracted with TSR to write a
Super Hero Role Playing Game. Now after long time in waiting,
the game is out, and it COMPLETELY lives up to my expectations:
IT SUCKS THE BIG GREEN WEENIE
This game makes Tunnels and Trolls, Dungeons and Dragons,
and Bunnies and Burrows, look like sheer gaming elegence. The
entire system devolves to one chart where you roll Characteristic
vs Characteristic -- there is NO explaination of powers, NO ability
to create special side effects, and NO room for expansion.
The game appears to be targeted towards particularly
stupid grade school students.
If you see this book in a store, DON'T BUY. If you are
interested in a Super Hero Role Playing Game, buy Champions,
SuperWorld, Villains and Vigilanties, or anything else. I give
you fair warning.
Steven Maurerburton@inuxg.UUCP (Thomas Burton) (05/11/84)
xx <- two-footed bug stomp! Is this Steve Maurer the same guy that wouldn't know a range restriction or time limit on an AD&D spell if it bit him? If so, then I wouldn't be too quick to take his criticism of this role-playing game seriously. Not that I have tried the game myself; for all I know, it could be as lousy as Steve says it is. It's just that, from past experience with Steve, I've learned to take his comments with a grain of salt. Doug Burton ATT-CP Indianapolis inuxg!burton
steven@qubix.UUCP (Steven Maurer) (05/17/84)
[wee pee dee pee do wee pee dee pee do-pee] > Is this Steve Maurer the same guy that wouldn't know a range > restriction or time limit on an AD&D spell if it bit him? > If so, then I wouldn't be too quick to take his criticism > of this role-playing game seriously. Not that I have tried > the game myself; for all I know, it could be as lousy as Steve > says it is. It's just that, from past experience with Steve, > I've learned to take his comments with a grain of salt. "a range restriction" in AD&D refers ONLY to the casting range, unless specified otherwise, or the referee decides to change the system to add more realism. "time limit" on spells, like "weapon bonuses for armor class" are so often ignored that they can hardly be called part of the system. If you accept 'time limits' on AD&D spells, then you must accept the 'casting times' as well; almost all AD&D referees ignore both (because low level MU's have to wait up to a full minute to get off a spell). This is a fault of the system, since a rule that is so unwieldy that it is not played, cannot be called part of the system. The article to which I refered, mentioned that a feather fall was used in a campaign (by a typical AD&D referee) to splat a Xorn. I did not say that I do not know about rules to the contrary buried somewhere deep in the system, only that unless a referee worships the book(s) he will never find them. Finally, if you wish to take my criticism of the TSR/Marvel product with a grain of salt, go ahead and buy the thing. You will get exactly what you deserve. Steven Maurer
moriarty@uw-june.UUCP (05/18/84)
Gentlemen, Excuse me for breaking in on the role-playing game argument, but... GET IT THE FUCK OUT OF NET.COMICS!!!! Thank you so much! Have a nice day! The Napoleon of Crime | Currently skulking around | UUCP: MORIARTY | {ihnp4,decvax,tektronix}!uw-beaver!uw-june!moriarty | ARPANET: AKA -jwm- | moriarty@washington
crigney@uok.UUCP (05/25/84)
#R:qubix:-108200:uok:11900018:000:786 uok!crigney May 24 19:04:00 1984 I saw the TSR Marvel game recently at my comics dealer (the shop I buy my games at still doesn't have it), and was wondering whether to buy it. I thought it would be bad, but was hoping otherwise. Thanks to Steven Maurer, I'll waste my money on something else instead :-) If anyone has played this and would like to support it, I'd like to hear from them. Does it contain enough information about the Marvel heroes to aid in adapting them to a real game, like CHAMPIONS? As a side note, the most recent issue of DIFFERENT WORLDS had the Champions, Villians&Vigilantes, and Superworld stats for the DNAgents. Previous issues have statted out the X-men and Teen Titans (Issues 23 and 30, respectively. Sold out, I believe). Carl ..!ctvax!uokvax!uok!crigney ..!duke!uok!crigney