jack@hp-dcde.UUCP (jack) (08/14/84)
Indeed, Professor X worked with the government when he set up the X-Men.
He worked with agent Fred Duncan, who is listed as deceased in the X-Men
section of the Handbook of the Marvel Universe. I don't know how or
when he died, though.
Back around issue 45 (?) when Professor X "died" (yeah, sure, it was the
Changeling), the X-Men split up for a few issues. Didn't one sub-team
work with Duncan?
-Jack Applin
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P.S.:
Yeah, Kitty wiping out all X-Men government records was pretty holey.lmaher@uokvax.UUCP (08/18/84)
#R:ucbvax:-157200:uokvax:11900015:000:4391 uokvax!lmaher Aug 18 01:37:00 1984 In reply to ucbvax!harry's article on the X-Men: > Sorry, I couldn't find the issue, though I checked back to the > Brood war, so it must be before the 150s. The New Brotherhood of Evil Mutants debuted in X-Men #142. > Now here we are in the late 180s and there has been no further > mention of any of this. I am all for subtle subplots, but three > bits of dialogue over some 40 issues is really TOO subtle. There's an issue of Spiderwoman scripted by Claremont (the one where Siryn first appears) where Val throws Nick Fury an odd paperweight and tells him the fate of the world depends on finding what it is. We're *still* waiting to find out. > Surely there has been time for Nightcrawler to make a phone call! Maybe Amanda remembered that Margali is with gypsies and doesn't have a phone? > Reading a number of back issues of X-Men, I have noticed lots of > loose ends. Looking just at the two issues referred to above, > 158 and 177: In 158 the X-Men decide the since the U.S. > government is becoming anti-mutant, they must erase the > government's files on the X-Men. Moira McTaggart claims that > Prof. X worked with the gov't in first setting up the X-Men. Can > anyone confirm or deny this? A liason was set up with Fred Duncan of the FBI shortly before the X-Men broke up after Professor X's "death." > Moira says there are probably files on the 'new' X-Men also, > although there is no indication of how that might be. You can bet U.S. intelligence kept tabs on Canada's Department H. Wolverine was a "Canadian James Bond," and people that dangerous are probably kept track of by the U.S. There have also been 60+ issues of events with the new team, and I'm sure USINT would be interested in any information about such powerful people. Especially where a Russian is involved. Or maybe when the Hellfire Club tapped the X-men's computer, the NSA tapped theirs! :-) > Kitty says they need to write an erase program and "plug it into > A central Federal data bank." (Emphasis mine.) So they go to the > Pentagon. First, why are the X-Men's files in the Pentagon, I believe the point was that the Starjammers could write a sophisticated virus program, which could be placed in one computer and would spread to any computers that one linked to, erasing any records of the X-Men it found. Apparently one set of these records was in the very-high security Pentagon computer, and the virus had to be entered from the console, so to speak. > and second, surely there is a more easily accessible "Federal > data bank" than the Pentagon. But the more easily accessed banks might not talk to the high- security computer. The Marvel USGovt apparently has its databanks more closely networked than ours, so by placing the virus in a few key spots it will spread everywhere. Why show the dull, technical erasures? > make the gov't very upset, probably even trigger an anti-mutant > war. But no, we hear little more about the anti-mutant movement > until recent issues (mid-180s) when Val Cooper goes mutant > hunting. On the plus side, issue 185 has a couple of references > to the events of 158. Considering how long it usually takes the government to get moving on something, they've been a blur of activity on the mutant issue. Project: Wideawake seems to be only slightly less than war. It's also been shown in the New Mutants. > in it, Mystique uses a "specially-designed combat suit" which > lets her absorb Storm's lightning and zap it back at her. Who > designed and built this suit? Why have we never seen it since? As Deputy Director of Defense Research, Raven Darkholme has access to *all* of America's top secret research. In Ms. Marvel, it was also shown that she could enter SHIELD's security vaults disguised as Nick Fury. The suit's just another toy she picked up. She probably found something she liked more, or maybe she had to get it back before it was missed. I'm very interested in the relationship between the Government and superheros/villains, especially mutants, since it's the dominant theme in my Champions campaign. If anyone out there is interested in discussing the Mutant Control Act from Marvel, the Vigilante Control Act from my campaign (see net.games.frp), or anything similar, drop me a line. Carl ..!allegra!{nbires convex ut-ngp}\ ..!decvax!cornell >!ctvax!uokvax!lmaher ..!ihnp4!{ut-sally convex ut-ngp}/