[net.comics] Asgard

disc@houxz.UUCP (OPUS) (09/07/84)

 ->     Ok, here's a question about Asgard.
 -> 	Most cultures advance slowly towards mechanization.  Man's
 -> civilization started out as nomad tribes and now look at all the
 -> wonderful machines we have {:-)  But after looking at Asgard we
 -> see that something is wrong.  They continue to fight with swords
 -> and mystical hammers (effective hammers, but still just hammers.)
 -> They haven't advanced in technology.  They are basically back in the
 -> Middle Ages and it would seen that their culture is stagnant.  Doesn't
 -> this strike you as odd?

Not necessarily, when you consider Ragnarok (sp?).  What's
the point of progress when all civilization is fated to be
nuked (more or less) in X number of years?

			-Sex, Drugs, Ragnarok 'n Roll....


			Scott J. Berry
			...!houxz!disc

dwc@hou2b.UUCP (D.CHEN) (09/08/84)

marvel has revealed to us thru the current thor storyline (and way back
when the celestials made their appearance in thor) that the asgardians
and the other mythical earth gods do not represent any conventional civilization.
in fact, they can be considered just extensions of a collective human
consciousness (can anyone tell me what i just said???)

the gods go thru a cycle of birth, death, and rebirth.  there is no real
need for them to advance technologically.  they simply reflect the
state of civilization at the time they are reborn.

this set of asgardians were born about 2000 years ago (according to the
celestials saga).  if they look primitive, you should have seen the
norse gods that were around before them.  at least the asgardians dress
nice.  and the gods that were around about 5000 years ago were even more
different (the asgardian cycle was about 2000 years).  their odin was
called woden.

lmaher@uokvax.UUCP (09/09/84)

#R:houxz:-95200:uokvax:11900033:000:565
uokvax!lmaher    Sep  9 15:51:00 1984

> ... What's
> the point of progress when all civilization is fated to be
> nuked (more or less) in X number of years?
> 
> 			Scott J. Berry
> 			...!houxz!disc

Not only in X years, but more like *every* X years.  Anyone
have a count of how many times Ragnarok has occurred in Thor?
I'd like to see Simonson (or someone) do it with the correct
outcome - i.e. the gods dead and a long period of darkness.
How about that as a What If?  What If Ragnarok only happened
once?  Everyone (almost) dies in the end, so they could do it. :-(

	Carl
	..!ctvax!uokvax!lmaher