[net.comics] That Darn Juggernaut!

moriarty@fluke.UUCP (The Napoleon of Crime) (09/03/84)

>	Second concerns the Human Juggernaut.  It seems that the powers
>given him <by that strange stone> could easily defeat the
>X-men, but everytime he fights them he constantly loses.  Why?
>
>				Paul Simmington
>				Northeastern Univ.
>				Boston MA  02116

Well, uh, if he should win, the X-Men die, which means that Chris Claremont
goes back to working in ad agencies, and Marvel loses the characters who
have made them one heck of a lot of moola.

Actually, it's pretty common knowledge that if you can jerk Juggie's (no,
no, not Archie comics... I've been listening to Stan Lee too much) helmet
off, he's vulnerable... people have been doing it for years (why doesn't he
put a saftey pin on it?).  Even a Chicago Bears running back could do it on
a good day.  So I guess he loses because he's dumb; or maybe because he's
evil and the X-Men are good.

Just like real life.

				"I'm not dead yet!"

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ciaraldi@rochester.UUCP (Mike Ciaraldi) (09/09/84)

> Actually, it's pretty common knowledge that if you can jerk Juggie's (no,
> no, not Archie comics... I've been listening to Stan Lee too much) helmet
> off, he's vulnerable... people have been doing it for years (why doesn't he
> put a saftey pin on it?).  Even a Chicago Bears running back could do it on
> a good day.  So I guess he loses because he's dumb; or maybe because he's
> evil and the X-Men are good.
> 
> Just like real life.
> 
Actually, in the Juggernaut's second-last appearance, in which
he battles Spider-man, the Big J has indeed solved that problem:
He welded his helmet on with a laser torch!
So, Spidey wound up encasing him in the concrete foundation of a 
new building, reasoning that after the concrete hardened
the Juggenaut would not be able to get up any momentum,
so being "unstoppable" wouldn't help.
I forget how he said he got out to fight Colossus.

Mike Ciaraldi
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lmaher@uokvax.UUCP (09/09/84)

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uokvax!lmaher    Sep  9 15:24:00 1984

>> 	Second concerns the Human Juggernaut.  It seems that the powers
>> given him <by that strange stone> could easily defeat the
>> X-men, but everytime he fights them he constantly loses.  Why?
>> 
>> 				Paul Simmington
> 
> Actually, it's pretty common knowledge that if you can jerk Juggie's
> ... helmet
> off, he's vulnerable... people have been doing it for years (why doesn't he
> put a saftey pin on it?).  
>					Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer

But he has, Moriarty!  Juggernaut welded his helmet onto his armor -
it restricts his field of vision, but it's never coming off again.
Nothing can stop him now.  The X-Men are doomed! (sorry, got carried
away...)

Which is not to say Wolverine couldn't pop a claw through
the eye-slot.  I'm looking forward to it.

	Carl, President of the Deadly Midget Fan Club
	..!ctvax!uokvax!lmaher

hutch@shark.UUCP (Stephen Hutchison) (09/13/84)

<bug-defeater line firmly welded into place>

The interesting thing about ol' Juggie-naught having his helmet
welded on is that he appeared in the "Beat up Colossus to punish
him for Jim Shooter's *u**ing-up his personality" issue and he
WASN'T WEARING his costume.

I assume this means he can tear loose the helmet when he wants to.

By the way, I believe he got out of the muck Spidey put him into
via an old, oft-forgotten trick:  the Juggernaught can emit waves
of repulsive force (NO wisecracks!) which eventually cracked the concrete.

Hutch (speculating again, huh)

moriarty@fluke.UUCP (The Save The Bag Ladies Foundation) (09/18/84)

>Which is not to say Wolverine couldn't pop a claw through
>the eye-slot.  I'm looking forward to it.

That's sick.

Unless it was done with taste (slo-mo, and a lot of hype in Epic comics...)

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