[net.comics] but jeff...

mwm@dartvax.UUCP (M. W. Modrall) (10/11/84)

jeff -
i agree with you about senseless quota killing... but the point that you didn't
address in my article is that of the impracticality of super-hero/normal 
relationships... the nature of a hero (look at the greeks) is that he/she
has to make sacrifices above and beyond the call of normal mortals... the
risk and responsability, as it were... now a hero in a relationship with a 
normal can be one of two things: a good person to be in a relationship, or
a good hero..... being in a relationship entails certain responsabilities
to the other person in the relationship, and one of those responsabilities
is staying alive (not taking needless risks).  My point is you can't fill
both shoes like a god... that's why i liked miller's handling of heather...
Murdock makes a great hero, but an abyssmal husband....

also, you have to admit that both houses have abused the villan-captures-
spouse routine, and the if-you-really-loved-me routine...

truce....

Mark Modrall
mwm
Dartmouth

"you'll stand for eternity, hip-deep in molton lead"

moriarty@fluke.UUCP (Jeff Meyer) (10/16/84)

Truce?  Whoops, maybe I was getting a bit too pedantic...

A few points I agree with... Yes, Miller's Heather/Matt relationship is
EXCELLENT; I thought it was very original, and much more complex, to have a
hero who just too intense for a normal relationship.  Also, the
villain-captures-spouse routine is overdone.

However, I still think the fact should be emphasized that people, in real
life, will seek a relationship despite risks to their lives.  This does
happen in real life: policemen/women, firemen/women, politicians -- all
these are people who (apparently) lead lives which put them at risk, and can
put their families at risk, also (though, of course, not quite so much as
Mr. Kent...).  Apparently, the husbands/wives of these risky-business people
feel that the relationship is more important than the risk of losing the
person, or losing their own life.  Besides, up till now I've been talking
about logical ways of handling a couple's emotions towards one another in
this situation; nothing breeds illogic like love ("Indeed, doctor...").

Also, I'm not sure all comics should be seen to be representing exactly the
same mythic types one finds in Greek mythology....  I doubt many authors
work to have their comic stories fit the Greek definition of
tragedy/comedy/drama.

Well, I've probably belabored this point too long, anyway.  Back to the biz.

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mwm@dartvax.UUCP (M. W. Modrall) (10/17/84)

jeff - 
thanks for the well-reasoned debate on the issue of super-hero/spouse
relationships...
it's been fun...
  
Mark

"Go away, or i shall taunt you a second time."