debenedi@yale-com.UUCP (Robert DeBenedictis) (09/20/83)
With respects to Mike Ciaraldi's article on Love And Rockets: Not enough good things said about this series! It wails. Hardcore, superheroes, leather. This series is probably the most underrated series I have come across since Reid Flemming: World's Toughest Milkman. I mean really. Don't avoid this because it looks subversive. American Flagg is a lot more twisted than this. This comic is really weird but VERY human at the same time. Every person I've shown this to has loved it and most of them never read comics! Imagine Archie comics with a large dose of L.A. Hardcore. You can't help but like it. Really. Good art, good story, good format, good publisher, good comic. BUY THIS BOOK. Benno Schmidt 207 Dean Rd. Brookline MA. 02146
gino@sdchema.UUCP (Eugene G. Youngerman) (11/10/84)
This is not an Attack and with that disclaimer... On the advice of the net, I bought Love and Rockets #2 (I figgered that I'd start at the beginning, and my dealer had no #1) I found the art amateurish. All the faces looked the same. The printing was muddy, in some panels, the details were impossible to make out, and the story was incomprehensible. I have no desire to continue this. I realize that I am in for many hot responses, but what the H-E-double-toothpicks. In one way I am glad, because now my opinions do not coincide with those on netland entirely. I am GINO
tim@cmu-cs-k.ARPA (Tim Maroney) (11/12/84)
For disliking Love and Rockets, you are condemned to the eleventh circle of Heck, reserved for those who wouldn't recognize talent if it struck them upon the mandibles. There your brains will be gnawed by insects and your cotton-wool bugs be laid utterly to waste. The art of Jaime Hernandez is not "amateurish" by any stretch of the imagination. Nor are the stories "incomprehensible" unless all you are capable of reading is the standard Marvel fourth-grade-level story. Yes, you may have to pause and think from time to time! I know most superhero stories and television do not demand such an outrageous imposition, but a few of us actualy prefer it that way! Masochistic, eh? -- Tim Maroney, Carnegie-Mellon University Computation Center ARPA: Tim.Maroney@CMU-CS-K uucp: Try sending through a gateway such as DECWRL, UCB-VAX, SEISMO, or HARVARD -- mailer conventions differ on syntax "Remember all ye that existence is pure joy; that all the sorrows are but as shadows; they pass & are done; but there is that which remains." Liber AL, II:9.
moriarty@fluke.UUCP (Jeff Meyer) (11/14/84)
My goodness, Gino, I do not flame simply because of a difference of opinion.
If you feel this way, fine. What I think I'd like to do is explain why I
consider it to be one of the best comics out on the market.
ART: Let's get this out in the open first. Yes, I do feel that the
brothers' (EXCEPT Jaime's ("Mechanics")) is somewhat crude... but that's
because it's different than what we're used to. I really love Jaime's art
-- I think he uses shadowing on a par with Sim.
But I don't read this magazine for the art... I read it for
CHARACTERIZATION! I read it for DIALOGUE! I read it for HUMOR!
"Heartbreak Soup" and "Mechanics" have some of the most innovative,
interesting, FEELING characters in comics today. My God, who can't
empathize with Maggie (with me, it more Hopey...) or enjoy the dialogue of
the kids growing up in the "Soup" strip? I certainly don't think either
story in #2 was incomprehensible; it just wasn't filled with the bang-bang
rock-'em-sock-'em attitude of 90% of comics (Note: I'm not knocking this...
I enjoy lots of titles that are made up of these elements). It's different,
and at the risk of sounding cliche, it is REFRESHINGLY different. I always
feel, after reading an issue of LOVE & ROCKETS, that I've entered, and
enjoyed, a visit to another person's life.
But, to each his/her own tastes (STRENGTH THROUGH DIVERSITY!)...
"Chuckles the Clown is dead."
Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer
John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc.
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fluke!moriarty@uw-beaver.ARPAdrforsey@watcgl.UUCP (Dave Forsey) (11/15/84)
> This is not an Attack and with that disclaimer... > > On the advice of the net, I bought Love and Rockets #2 > (I figgered that I'd start at the beginning, and my dealer > had no #1) > > I found the art amateurish. All the faces looked the same. > The printing was muddy, in some panels, the details were impossible > to make out, and the story was incomprehensible. I have no > desire to continue this. > > I realize that I am in for many hot responses, but what the > H-E-double-toothpicks. In one way I am glad, because now > my opinions do not coincide with those on netland entirely. > > I am <Hi GINO> The faces certainly don't look all the same to *me*. I can tell them apart no problem. However, the *subtlety* with which Jaime Hernandez distinguishes among them is the mark of genius. Just like his amazing control and economy, which might look like amateurishness to someone raised on "rivet-men" artists. I know from personal experience that trying to draw in Jaime's style or techniques is a HELLUVA lot harder than ripping off Neal Adams! Jaime Hernandez is the greatest comic artist around! The Gray Mouser > GINO