afo@pucc-h (Flidais ) (10/21/84)
(you mind getting these ducks out of the hot tub?)
Ummmm, I'm confused. Either I'm missing a #189 of the X-Men (not too likely)
or they (marvel) started a story line in another book and crossed over to the
X-Men midstream. What the heck is going on here? I don't read the Spiderman
books or the Avengers, so that may account for something. Also, Marvel seems
to have tossed continuity to the wind on this one. (Oh? you say when all of
this is over, no one will remember what happened to them? And that is how
completely different things may be going on in the other books,and no one
mentions being under KG's spells?....sure.....)
Besides, the artwork on this was a bit 'ragged' and the colouration was
odd, to say the least.
Laurie Sefton
{harpo,ihnp4,allegra,decvax}!pur-ee!pucc-h!afo
"Lifemate! Friend of my body and my soul! I will be with you forever!"ciaraldi@rochester.UUCP (Mike Ciaraldi) (10/24/84)
As far as I know, you didn't miss anything. I too am wondering how they are going to explain this in the other books, and I imagine they will just have all "civilians" forget that anything out of the ordinary happened. What I was wondering about is that in the opening sequence they say that surveillance satellites have shown a whole bunch of heroes who have been transformed since the energy barrier went up the evening before. They incl}jrude pictures of Captain America, Rogue, Storm, etc. Well, OK, I suppose if you had lots and lots of photo-interpreters you might be able to comb through all the photos of NYC and find that handful of people on the streets, and even use some sort of optical trickery to change photos of the tops of their heads into full-body shots, but how can they have a picture of Ororo already when she hasn't even woken up and got out of bed yet? Maybe the prologue actually happened after she is shown waking up in the following scene, but they had to have caught her during the walk from her house to where she escapes into the water. Oh well, who cares, it's only a comic book... Mike Ciaraldi ciaraldi@rochester seismo!rochester!ciaraldi
rh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Randy Haskins) (10/27/84)
Several of us who have read this recently are not happy. No, I've not been able to discern that this was a crossover from another group. I read NM and occasionally glance at Defenders (but please don't tell anyone. Did you know that Cloud is apparently a girl again?), but no hints from them. I think they're just hacking us. Probably nothing compared to how they're going to hack us in issue 200. Okay, so now Selena and Callisto are "good guys." Boy, things are going to get confusing. I suppose all the muties are going to have to band together when the Gov't. decides to try and herd them into camps. Should be fun. -- Randwulf (Randy Haskins); Path= genrad!mit-eddie!rh
ron@wjvax.UUCP (Ron Christian) (11/08/84)
Thanks, Lauri, for saving me the trouble of posting an almost identical article. I just picked up 190 last night and couldn't figure it out, either. And I *do* collect some of the other books. Why is this guy after the 'man-spider'? He looks more like Conan's type of adversary. Captain America looked more like Thor. We needed the shield (anacronism!) to confirm his identity. He also wears his sword on the wrong side. (You always cross- draw a longsword.) As usual with this kind of cross-over (???) storyline, characterization has really suffered, except perhaps for Storm and what's-her-name. Now for some general criticisms: Anyone else noticed that Selene has regressed from ancient evil goddess to just another super powered baddie? Bah. Who cares that she's now wearing black underware? Being the Black Queen doesn't add to her power. What's happened to Illyana's soulsword? When it made it's first appearance long ago, she used it on Kitty and cut her in spite of her intangability. Now it does no physical damage. What gives? And geeze, they must have put "The soulsword is the ulitimate expression of Illyana's power as a sorceress" on a rubber stamp. C'mon, guys, we've memorized that phrase, already. Who's responsible for this muck? -- "Where can you find Ron Christian a stale work environment Watkins-Johnson Co. with excellent pay?" San Jose, Calif. --bay area newspaper (...ios!wjvax!ron)
gino@sdchema.UUCP (Eugene G. Youngerman) (11/10/84)
>I *do* collect some of the other books. Why is this >guy after the 'man-spider'? He looks more like Conan's >type of adversary. Kulan Gath made his first-and-only appearance in an old issue of marvel team up. (about 68, but I'm not sure.) This was a very well done tale, albeit a bit stretched teaming up the "man-spider" with "Red-Sonja, she-devil with a sword". The story was done by Claremont and Byrne, and had Kulan Gath possessing the boly of an innocent night watchman, and Red Sonja possessing the body of Mary Jane Watson. It is also reprinted in the recent trade paperback book, Great Team-Ups (or some such title). GINO
ricketts@uicsl.UUCP (11/20/84)
I think you missed the point of why Cap retained his shield. It *couldn't* be altered, even by whatsisface's magic field. I'd say it was intentional. .w .q w