mfc@hp-pcd.UUCP (mfc) (11/24/84)
>A friend of mine had the following thing to say to me (he is an ex comic >reader, and wanted me to post this article up) on the issue of reading comics. >---> >Why do we even read comics anymore with the crap that comes out, like >secret wars (crappy story) or the new mutants (shitty artwork), or overall >dumb characters like cerebus. Why do we assume it makes sense to buy a comic >that use to be good and is now mediocre (the X-MEN). > >Why do we even read comics anymore? > ><--- > >Okay, why do we even read comics anymore? > >-Nick Flor > >Oh yeah, the friends name was >Roberto Nararra at Harvey Mudd college >so send flames to him, its not my opinion. Not so fast there, Nick! You can't go blaming an opinion like that solely on your friend Roberto Nararra. If you don't agree with him, WHY ARE YOU POSTING HIS OPINION HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE? I figure it's for one of three reasons (maybe four): a) Your bored with current net.comics talk and what to start a heated argument. b) You just what to piss some of us off. c) You secretly agree with Roberto, but don't want to take the heat. d) Roberto is standing there next to you as you post this note, holding a revolver to your head. Anyway, the opinion is just that, an opinion. It certainly doesn't hold any water as comic-oriented religious dogma. It can be refuted by any of the following statements: a) Some of us read "crap" like Secret Wars because we know it's not going to last for ever, and we what to stay up to date on what happens there because it may affect what happens in other GOOD comics like The Fantastic Four and Spiderman. b) We read shitty artwork comics like New Mutants because the story is still good and the current artist can't last forever. c) We read mediocre comics like X-Men because you don't desert an old, dear friend just because he's sick. The X-Men stands head and shoulders above most other comics even when it's mediocre. Theres no reason to assume it won't pick up again. and finally . . . d) We read comics with "dumb characters" like Cerebus because even at his worst, he makes some of us laugh. In my book, that's pretty high praise, and more than many real people deserve. Mark F. Cook HP-PCD Corvallis, OR ...hplabs!hp-pcd!mfc
ma155abl@sdcc7.UUCP (Nick Flor) (11/28/84)
A friend of mine had the following thing to say to me (he is an ex comic reader, and wanted me to post this article up) on the issue of reading comics. ---> Why do we even read comics anymore with the crap that comes out, like secret wars (crappy story) or the new mutants (shitty artwork), or overall dumb characters like cerebus. Why do we assume it makes sense to buy a comic that use to be good and is now mediocre (the X-MEN). Why do we even read comics anymore? <--- Okay, why do we even read comics anymore? -Nick Flor Oh yeah, the friends name was Roberto Nararra at Harvey Mudd college so send flames to him, its not my opinion.
drforsey@watcgl.UUCP (Dave Forsey) (12/04/84)
> A friend of mine had the following thing to say to me (he is an ex comic > reader, and wanted me to post this article up) on the issue of reading comics. > ---> > Why do we even read comics anymore with the crap that comes out, like > secret wars (crappy story) or the new mutants (shitty artwork), or overall > dumb characters like cerebus. Why do we assume it makes sense to buy a comic > that use to be good and is now mediocre (the X-MEN). > > Why do we even read comics anymore? > > <--- > > Okay, why do we even read comics anymore? > > -Nick Flor > > Oh yeah, the friends name was > Roberto Nararra at Harvey Mudd college > so send flames to him, its not my opinion. ========================= <ahem ahem> Hey You: We read comics for the incredible and incredibly NEW art and amazing storytelling of LOVE & ROCKETS. We read comics for the freshness and subtle insights of ZOT! We read comics for the richness and intelligence of AMERICAN FLAGG! For the haunting, jarring poignancy of MR. X. For the rejuvenating power of NEXUS. The evocativeness and sheer fun of THE ROCKETEER. The vision of Alan Moore. The baroque flamboyance of AZTEC ACE. The arctic crispness of Brian Bolland. Let's face it, comics are DAMN GOOD! <to be said in Yosemite Sam's voice: "THAT'LL learn yuh!"> Look, if we thought Cerebus was a dumb character, we wouldn't buy it... but he's a *great* character, so we do. If we thought Bill Sienkiewicz was a shitty artist, we wouldn't buy him. If we thought SECRET WARS was a crappy story, we wouldn't buy ----- we... (uh-oh.) The Gray Mouser
moriarty@fluke.UUCP (The Napoleon of Crime) (12/06/84)
Well put.... Without re-posting my "Comics are better than ever" harang, because there is some well-written entertainment out there -- with the exception of St. Elsewhere and Hill Street Blues, I'd give you the opinion that the average comic book I read is wittier, and better written, than any entertainment program on TV (and that includes most Masterpiece theatre episodes (which have been going downhill lately anyway)). For the list I read, see the self-same article mentioned above. Oh, conversely: If SECRET WARS was any good, we wouldn't have the great fun of kicking it all over the bar room floor... "Take that, you hostile sons-of-bitches!" (Can you identify this one?) Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc. UUCP: {cornell,decvax,ihnp4,sdcsvax,tektronix,utcsrgv}!uw-beaver \ {allegra,gatech!sb1,hplabs!lbl-csam,decwrl!sun,ssc-vax} -- !fluke!moriarty ARPA: fluke!moriarty@uw-beaver.ARPA