[net.comics] What's happened to Doonesbury?

chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuqui Q. Koala) (12/25/84)

Like most of the country, I eagerly awaited the return of Doonebury to my
local paper. Having read it since then, I've found that I'm very
disappointed in the quality of the work. Perhaps I've been spoiled by Bloom
County and friends, but I think that the new Doonesbury simply doesn't have
the spark that made it what it was. I've gone back through my archives, and
I get the feeling that Trudeau is pushing-- his humor is forced and he is
spending too much time on storylines that don't work very well and simply
aren't interesting. There have been some good storylines, but overall its
been quite disappointing. Am I alone in this feeling? Perhaps I'm simply
expecting too much of Doonesbury, but I simply don't think it has survived
the time off very well.

chuq

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steiny@scc.UUCP (Don Steiny) (12/26/84)

>
> I eagerly awaited the return of Doonebury to my
> local paper. Having read it since then, I've found that I'm very
> disappointed in the quality of the work. 

	I thought the sequence with Uncle Duke and the 
Baby Doc College of Medicine was funny.  

	When Bloom County first started there were some people
that did not like it too much.  Bloom County is like 
Doonseburry because its characters have personality.
Doonseburry is really kind of slow and a lot of the  humor is
made possible because we get to know the characters so well.
When I started reading it again (saited only by my collection
of all of the Doonseburry collections) I realized that it was
going to take a while to get reaquainted with the characters.
I think he is doing well, just give it time.   After we got
to know everyone in Bloom County the strip became great.
Trudeau needs to introduce the actors.  

	I am optimistic that Trudeau is setting us up for
some good laughs.  


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rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) (12/28/84)

> Like most of the country, I eagerly awaited the return of Doonebury to my
> local paper. Having read it since then, I've found that I'm very
> disappointed in the quality of the work...
> ...There have been some good storylines, but overall its
> been quite disappointing. Am I alone in this feeling? Perhaps I'm simply
> expecting too much of Doonesbury, but I simply don't think it has survived
> the time off very well.

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tim@cmu-cs-k.ARPA (Tim Maroney) (12/29/84)

Yes, when Bloom County first started there were a lot of people who didn't
like it.  This is because it was a piss-poor strip way back when.  The strip
is many years old, but only in the last few years has it achieved heavy
distribution.  Before that, the only place I saw it was the Boston Globe,
and it was awful.  They haven't even bothered to collect those early strips
into books, despite the fact that they would sell -- I think the reason is
plain to anyone who read it back then.

Now, it's pretty good most of the time.
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oz@rlgvax.UUCP (THE GREAT AND POWERFUL OZ) (12/30/84)

I guess I should start this off by mentioning that I am not a Bloom County
fan, but more a definate hardcore Donnesbury fan.  What I liked best about
Doonesbury was his ability to show current events with a special humorous
bent to make us either recognize them, or at least be amused by them.  G.B.
also had (has?) the ability to make us laugh while outraging us (the famous
"In Search of Reagan's Brain" or "Guilty, Guilty, Guilty" series).

Since he has come back he doesn't seems to have been able to quite get it
together.  I am not saying that I haven't been enjoying it, indeed there have
been some wonderful lines, but the long stories seem incomplete.  I am asuming
that he is dividing his time between fathering and cartooning but this too
will pass.  One good Doonesbury (of which I think we have had several since
its return) is worth 10,000 terrible Cathy's (of which we have had at least
10,000 since it started).

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moriarty@fluke.UUCP (The Napoleon of Crime) (12/31/84)

Can't agree with Chuq here.  I enjoy Bloom County for just-plain zaniness
and computer fun.  Doonesbury continues to be the excellent political satire
it has always been (I really enjoyed the "Reagan view of the White House"
this morning... what is excellent about the strip is that it is a laugh/cry
situation...).  It was somewhat weird when Zonker was taking up a lot of
space (the U-boat commander was always one of my favorite bits), but I think
that type of humor would not stand up well to Bloom C.  I also don't think
we've been given the time to see a lot of the old characters, but I'm sure
that will change.  At any rate, the humor is still pointed yet gentle (I've
yet to see anything vicious in Trudeau's work... at the most, he gets
exasperated, which is what *I* get, too!).  Some very good stuff; I suspect
that perhaps he does belong on the Editorial page...

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rsk@stat-l (Rich Kulawiec) (01/02/85)

	I disagree with Chuq, here, too...Doonesbury has long been my favorite
strip, since Trudeau has never been afraid to lambaste anyone...he made me
a fan for life during the Watergate years...and I think he's still every bit
as entertaining as he was then.

	Bloom County, though, is a strong competitor; Breathed has a novel
viewpoint to draw from.

	Now, if they'd just re-run those old "Pogo" strips...
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