[net.comics] This week's bag of goodies

afo@pucc-k (sefton) (08/18/84)

(ri-i-i-i-p-p-p!)

DNAgents:  Well, we get to see the other side of the Teen Titans/DNAgents
	   story.  I think that the characterisations were much better on the
	   DC side.  Not much time was spent on the 'Project:Youngblood'
	   group's background, although their point of entry in the story
	   was essentially the same.  Of course, to save continuity, the
	   P:Y people get offed at the end of the story.  Note: Has
	   anyone seen the Surge mini-series? It hasn't arrived in the
	   midwest wastelands yet...
	   
Infinity:  Two more months to go, and then this story line is finished.
	   Finally.  I'm beginning to get a *little* tired of this one.
	   I can see what is trying to be done, though, we're getting a 
	   *lot* of character development along with the biffs and bangs.
	   Also, Wildcat (Yeah!!!) is in this issue. I always liked the 
	   character, and I'm glad they dragged him out of retirement
	   (remember that story a few years back?) for the new stories
	   from Earth-2.
	   
C.A.	:  This is a 300th issue?  OK, the Red Skull is dead until the next
	   time they need to resurrect him, and everything else seems to have
	   worked out for the best (except that Cap is a lot older), but I had
	   hoped that this issue would wrap things up.	I mean, THIS IS THE
	   300th ISSUE!!!! I DON'T WANT WARMED OVER OATMEAL FOR THE 300th
	   ISSUE!!! (*sigh*)
	   
G.L.	:  'But, you're not the G.L. I interviewed a few weeks ago.' Um, yeah.
	   Hal Jordan finds out who got the ring (and was it really in any 
	   doubt?), and we find out that Ferris Aircraft will still get trashed 	  out for the next few million issues or so.

Muties	:  Gee, I almost enjoyed this issue.  Maybe I'm just a sucker for
	   Disney stories.  I see we have yet another sub-plot about 
	   Rahne and Roberto getting their genes re-scrambled back with
	   Cloak and Dagger in the MTU annual (I think).  Let's hope
	   that we don't have to wait for ten years or so for this one
	   to be worked through....
	   
Alpha	:  Well, Heather is the new leader, Aurora gets *her* genes 
	   rescrambled, and we get to see where Wolverine changed his
	   costume back from the one he got in outer space (and wasn't
	   that a looooong time ago).  Actually, if I wasn't sure that
	   Shooter would get his hands on it and destroy it, a mini
	   series with Puck and Wolverine would be most welcome.
	   
Iceman	:  Speaking of trashed out mini-series....*sigh*  Was it just
	   the bunch that were sent out here, or were all the copies
	   of this issue badly printed?  It was just on a few pages,
	   but it made it very hard to look at.  The rest of the issue
	   was just a set-up for the other issues...deadly boring.
	   Apparently the people at Marvel think that having parental
	   units of different religious persuasions is a good enough
	   reason for any number of neurosies...
	   
Hmm.. that's it for this week....

Laurie
pucc-k:afo

lmaher@uokvax.UUCP (08/21/84)

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uokvax!lmaher    Aug 21 01:56:00 1984

> 	   . . .  Actually, if I wasn't sure that
> 	   Shooter would get his hands on it and destroy it, a mini
> 	   series with Puck and Wolverine would be most welcome.
> Laurie
> pucc-k:afo

Haven't you heard about it yet Laurie?  In issue 1 we  find  Puck
and  Wolverine  going  to  that  coffee  shop,  where  after  the
obligatory brawl they flashback the Maracaibo affair.  In  issues
2-4,  they  track  down and *kill* Jim Shooter for what he did to
Phoenix, not to mention his humiliation  of  Wolverine  in  X-Men
#143  and  of practically everyone in Secret Wars.  Besides, he's
way too tall, he *needs* to be cut down to  size.   Byrne  writes
and  pencils,  Austin inks.  If the series is popular there'll be
a fifth issue, where they take care of Randy Newman  for  writing
"Short People."

If anyone out there in net.land likes this  idea,  drop  Byrne  a
line  asking  for  a  Puck/Wolverine  teamup  against  Operation:
Wideawake and  Henry  Peter  Gyrich.   We  all  know  who  Gyrich
*really* is, don't we?

	Carl
	President of the Deadly Midgets Fan Club

moriarty@fluke.UUCP (Jeff Meyer) (08/28/84)

>If anyone out there in net.land likes this  idea,  drop  Byrne  a
>line  asking  for  a  Puck/Wolverine  teamup  against  Operation:
>Wideawake and  Henry  Peter  Gyrich.   We  all  know  who  Gyrich
>*really* is, don't we?
>
>	Carl
>	President of the Deadly Midgets Fan Club

Err, no, who is he?  I mean, I have guesses....

1)  Jasper Sitwell, born-again & with a different hair color.

2)  Barry Goldwater Jr.

3)  Elvis Costello, 30 years later.

Oh, well....

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lmaher@uokvax.UUCP (09/17/84)

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uokvax!lmaher    Sep  3 23:41:00 1984

>/***** uokvax:net.comics / vax2!moriarty /  5:05 pm  Aug 31, 1984 */
>>If anyone out there in net.land likes this  idea,  drop  Byrne  a
>>line  asking  for  a  Puck/Wolverine  teamup  against  Operation:
>>Wideawake and  Henry  Peter  Gyrich.   We  all  know  who  Gyrich
>>*really* is, don't we?
>>
>>	Carl
>>	President of the Deadly Midgets Fan Club
>
>Err, no, who is he?  I mean, I have guesses....
>
>1)  Jasper Sitwell, born-again & with a different hair color.
>2)  Barry Goldwater Jr.
>3)  Elvis Costello, 30 years later.

Gasp, I'm shocked! :-)   While those were all interesting
answers, moriarty, the real identity of H.P. Gyrich is far worse.
He's:

                Jim Shooter.

Or so innumerable Marvel denizens have suggested.  (It's obvious
once you consider the personality rather than the appearance -
although Gyrich is too tall also.)

And now that you know, let's get those cards and letters going. :-)

	Carl
	..!ctvax!uokvax!lmaher

afo@pucc-k (Flidais) (12/02/84)

(hmmm, 15 hours, 24 minutes and 37 seconds, better call Guinness!)

Reviews from this week's plunder...


Tales of the Teen Titans #51:  A reasonable follow up issue for the
wedding.  Looks like lots of bloody good fun for an issue or two.
And then, we'll finally get around to issue #54 (they keep referring
to it).  So, Joe Wilson (Jericho) is recognised as a heartbreaker by
members of the DC universe.  Thought he was drawn like that to
interest the more lustful of the female readers....:-) And who
left Cheshire with the child?

The New Teen Titans #6:  A wonderful issue. No fighting
super-nasties, no earth shaking crises, just a magnificent allotment
of character development. Terry is one of the best 'normal'
characters to come along in years.  You do keep forgetting that
these characters are only 16-19 years old.  I hope *if* Lilith stays
around, she doesn't become a 'weaker' version of Raven. Also, not a
20th century version of Dream Girl.  Nice slam of the press and the
hucksters in this also.

X-Men #191:  This was *awful*.  I mean dreadful.  Words don't
describe how ***bad*** this issue was.  Where did Warlock pop in
from?  And the ending... oh GLOS, how contrived.  Really, really
bad.

Zot #6:  Back to the good stuff again.  I could really learn to like
9jack9. I haven't seen someone so in love with his work since
Arcade.  Looks like Drufus bit the biggee this issue (then again,
one never knows).  Did 9jack9 kill Zot's parents on the King's
orders?  Is Zot going to be massively motivated to help the royal
house because of that.  ('sorry royal house; you can go bite it.
You offed my family')  I liked the portfolio of Dekko's art.  Hope
they can manage to get this mag out on a regular schedule.


Dr fate #3:  Nice reprint.  Are they ever going to come up with new
materiel, or is this it?

DNAgents #16:  GLOS and everyone did the pencilling for this, and it
shows.  It takes a lot of care not to make Amber look 'piggy', and
some of these artists don't have it.  A nice crossover from
Crossfire.  I wish that they would take care of:

	1.  Amber's brain
	2.  Tank's virginity
	3.  The 'attack' of Matrix

soon, though. I think things are getting a little dragged out.

Blue Devil #10:  Good, solid issue.  Nothing earth-shaking, a guest
appearance by Wonder Woman. I think they are saving the jollies for
#11.  The trident is turning into an interesting piece of machinery,
I think BD is going to be the most suprised when it really starts to
show some mystical forces...

hmmm, that's it for this week....

Ambush Bug is coming soon, and finally, the crisis of infinite
earths will start later this month...


-- 
Laurie Sefton
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~As he lay out the tarot, the devil and death, two old and very dear
friends of mine, appeared.~

chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Laurie Sefton, C/O chuqui) (07/21/85)

Stuff to be reviewed...


Alpha Flight #28	Blue Devil #17	Annual Legion of Superheroes #1
BATO #26		The Outsiders #1	American Flagg #26
Red Sonja #11		Infinity Inc. #19	JLA #244


Note:  I barely got out alive of the comic book store, because of all the
preadolescent males doing search and destroy missions for Secret War II
tie-ins...


Alpha Flight #28:  Speaking of SWII tie-ins.. Well the Beyonder has rescued
Talisman, who apparently seems to be showing signs of *gasp* Dark Talisman.
I just love those back-lit bodies with the glowing eyes.  Heather finds out
she needs to buy "The One-Minute Manager", and they manage to reel in
(really!) The Hulk.  I hope Bill Mantlo  and Mike Mignola can take this book to better places than Byrne has in the last few issues.  Well, at least let us
hope that Talisman doesn't decide to scarf Calgary for a snack.

Blue Devil #17:  Well, it appears that most of the COIE tie-in issues will
be odd stories that the editor has lying about (with the exeception of
Infinity Inc., anyway).  Lots of the normal silliness, and STAR makes
another appearance.  Did anyone *really* worry when BD started for the
bottom of the ocean?  Or have the goodies in his  costume (skin?) been well
documented enough for all of us to know?  Gopher looks like he has a skin
condition, instead of freckles, and we find out that Alan Kupperberg really
likes to draw women in bikinis.... Still a good book for non-angst readers.

Annual Legion of Superheroes #1:  Haven't we seen this plot before?  I
think the "bozo tries to do in decendants of superheroes" has been a bit
overdone.  Keith Giffen (who I think may be one of those artists that you
either love or hate) does a nice stylized book.  Has anyone noticed a bit
of a personality change in Shrinking Violet since her time in the sensory
deprivation tank?  The woman is getting absolutely nasty.  I see Laurel
Kent as a Science Policewoman  in the near future ("we could use an
invulnerable officer").


BATO #26:  Yes, the Outsiders get away from Kobra.  Oh well, that's another
Super-Hero group he has been whomped by.  Readers who entered late into the
DC universe get a short bio on Kobra...

The Outsiders #1:  I read this one twice to try and get in all the
information.  I may read it again to see what I missed.  Two minor things
bothered me about this issue.  One was the fold-out in the beginning of the
book.  It just begs to be folded incorrectly.  The second was the way the
psychologist was portrayed.  Could we just once have a *nice* psychologist.
I mean, my Motivation prof (hello Peter Uricioli, wherever you are) was a
perfectly nice guy.  In fact *most* of my psych profs were the nicest
people I had met at the university (a few twits in the crowd, but..) What
is this compulsion to depict psychologists as a bunch of crazed,
egotistical, loonies?  Getting back for student psych experiments? (end of
editorial)  Anyway, I see Looker to get a new costume within 10 issues or
so, one that won't make the colorist crazy.  Looker, the new member of the
Outsiders, is your basic PK, with some telepathy tossed in for good measure
(I hope she's not a mutant :-) ).  Black Lightning should be getting back
with his ex, and Katana should give us plenty of angst over "I am losing
Halo again".  I like the way Aparo draws "Bob" and his nuclear family he
pipe never leaves this guy's mouth.  I keep expecting something from the
Church of the Sub-Genius to pop up. Let's see if they can take this as far
as Teen Titans, and LSH have gone.

American Flagg #26:  A rather confusing tying up of a good story.  Once
again, Flagg shows that there isn't any black and white, just shades of
grey.  I *am* glad that the story about Kansas becoming a giant erotica
park will be done with next issue. Don Lomax's art tends to make *everyone*
look a bit (a lot?) slimy.  And everybody looks like they have been
operated on for cleft palettes....


Red Sonja #11:  The quarterly is much better than one should hope.  Maybe
Shooter has so little interest in this book that he leaves it alone.  Mary
Wilshire does some *nice* artwork, and my only complaint with this book is
that it doesn't come out often enough; after 3 months, you tend to lose
track of the plot .  Louise Simonson does some nice straight fantasy
plotting.


Infinity Inc #19/ JLA #244:  This is this year's (and the last)
JSA/JLA/Infinity Inc. crossover. Too bad it had to be for such a stupid
plot.  The Infinitors are duped by the original Steel into thinking that
the JLA is going to start a revolution (or something- he keeps changing his
mind).  Detroit is still misplaced by Lake Michigan (you think after the
big fusss they had in the JLA mag about Detroit *not* being next to Lake
Michigan, they would have gotten the hint.), and the JSA is brought in to
clean up the mess in the second issue.  I bought JLA #244 for the end of
the story, and I don't think I'll be buying it again after this.  Maybe DC
will get the idea from the Coca Cola people- don't mess with a classic.
*sigh*


That's it for this week...

Laurie Sefton


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francis@osu-eddie.UUCP (RD Francis) (07/23/85)

> Infinity Inc #19/ JLA #244:  ...  I bought JLA #244 for the end of
> the story, and I don't think I'll be buying it again after this.  Maybe DC
> will get the idea from the Coca Cola people- don't mess with a classic.


From what I've heard, this will happen within the next couple
of months -- the JLA will, in fact, not only regain the new
members, but go to the extreme of turning into a 1980's All-
Star Squadron, with *anyone* being a potential JLAer.

Well, it *might* be better ( though I think this idea wasn't given 
enough of a try -- the JLA has been abysmal for years, and any 
attempt to improve it deserves some credit...)

RD fozz Francis    !cbosgd!osu-eddie!francis
                or francis@osu-eddie.UUCP