[net.comics] Marvel

kayuucee@cvl.UUCP (Kenneth W. Crist Jr.) (11/05/85)

	There have been so many articles about Jean Grey, that I did not want
to go through them all to find the idea I wanted. So, I'll just sumarize it,
and then make my point. One person said that he would buy X-FACTOR when it
came out, Jim Shooter would see the sales figures and think that he made a
good editorial descision in bringing Jean back. This poster said that there
was nothing we could do about it either.
	Well, I say there is. DON'T BUY THE BOOK! I have been doing that 
a lot lately with Marvel. I remember when Marvel was #1 one for me, but it is
not anymore. Marvel has dropped to about third, except for one book that is
consistantly good, POWER PACK.
	In the last few months I have dropped X-MEN and NEW MUTANTS and never
picked up SECRET WARS II after the first issue. I bought that because I had
heard that SECRET WARS II was supposed to interact with the main-line books
more than SECRET WARS I. Boy, was I suckered. Just what Jim Shooter wanted,
too. I continue to read many Marvel books, but have not found the need to
pick up another issue of SECRET WARS II. Since every issue is summerized
three or four times a month in other books, there is no need to.
	So, you can make a difference. If nobody buys the book, there will
be no reason to print it. And for those people who are out there saying
"Fine for him, he doesn't really care!", the joke is on you. Scott, Hank, 
Warren, Bobby and most of all Maddy are among the most interesting
characters in comics in my opinion. I would love to read X-FACTOR to find
out what happens to them, but I won't. Bringing back Jean Grey was a mistake
no matter what the reason. I see no reason to let Marvel think they did
something good.

							Star-Lord

dtuttle@uw-june (David C. Tuttle) (11/09/85)

> Scott, Hank, Warren, Bobby and most of all Maddy are among the most
> interesting characters in comics in my opinion. I would love to read
> X-FACTOR to find out what happens to them, but I won't...
>							Star-Lord

Not to worry. The folks in X-Factor bear little resemblance to the 
interesting characters you mention above.  Talk about character
assassination...! (see previous postings for details)
And here's a vote for Chris Claremont to ignore X-Factor.  I hope he
goes on his merry:-) way scripting the way he wants, without having
to worry about continuity or plot-swapping with what will probably 
be a crappy book.
P.S. Issue #1 is our last!  (My wife gave me permission to speak for her)
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David C. Tuttle 	 Dept. of Computer Science, University of Washington
[ihnp4,decvax,ucbvax]!uw-beaver!uw-june!dtuttle		dtuttle@uw-june.ARPA

ma3752af@unmc.UUCP (11/14/85)

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     Bravo, bravo.  I, too, have read the new issue of X-Factor and decided to
     completely liquidate my Marvel collection.  I really don't know what
     they think they are doing.  Having Jean cooped up all this time seems very

     contrived to me.

     Meanwhile, Ambush Bug's new special is a delightful change from the 
     dreck Marvel is rejurgitating.  I recommend this excellent (but 
     thinly veiled) social comment comic to all.  I found it more 
     amusing than the New Mutants deathes (if it could only last!!!).
     And for all you Marvelites out there, don't give me a lecture on
     how Marvel outsells D.C.  With a 2-to-1 ratio of regular titles, it 
     is a wonder why Marvel doesn't really outsell D.C. In proportion, each
     of D.C.'s titles sells the same as any Marvel title.

     However, once Marvel gets rid of X-Factor, New Mutants, Alpha
     Flight, and forgets about the Misfits, then I will consider buying 
     Marvel once again.  After all, when one company has to copy the
     ideas of another (i.e. Squadron Supreme) you know they are in 
     serious trouble. 

     Jean Grey mentions (in X-Factor #1) that "mutantkind" is dying out.
     How she comes to this conclusion is odd - there are more mutant 
     comics at Marvel then there are sucessful mutants (i.e. ones 
     with any sort of overtly helpful mutations (humans excepted, of 
     course) that is).

     Finally, before I curl up with my new issue of Teen Titans, I want
     you all to know that D.C. isn't perfect either - Kamandi, The Last
     Boy on Earth has fallen prey to the Crisis.  His time line has
     disappeared, making his character become Tommy Tomorrow, instead
     of the interesting person he once was.  C'est la vie.

					       -The Anti-Marvelor