[net.garden] fertilizers and a small flame

karla@drutx.UUCP (RikansrudKB) (09/18/85)

Aren't there any people on the net who grew up on a farm?

I grew up in South Dakota, yet not on a farm, and even I know
that the only fecal matter that's suitable for fertilizing
is manure from herbivores (animals that only eat plants/grass).
Carnivore (animals that eat meat) feces is not good for anything.

This is why cow/sheep/goat (herbivores) manure is used to fertilize
gardens and lawns, and dog/cat (carnivores) poop causes brown rings and
dead spots on your lawn.

'FLAME'
The original question was yet another example of lazy people posting 
a question to the net when they could look it up somewhere, quicker 
and more cheaply than using the net.  The person who said cat poop 
was ok as fertilizer if you let it 'age' long enough, is another 
example of people posting things to the net with an air of knowing 
when they have no idea what they're talking about, they 'heard it
somewhere'.  Let's not diminish the integrity of the net with careless
and thoughtless postings.  

Sorry for the flame on what is usually a very 'clean' newsgroup, 
but I had to get in my 2 cents worth.

                         -Karla   drutx!karla

tw8023@pyuxii.UUCP (T Wheeler) (09/19/85)

Just a few notes on fertilizers.  Yes, poop from herbiferous
(?) animals can be used directly, if it has been properly
thinned.  Do this to cut down on concentrations of nitrogen
which will  burn plants if it is too high.  However, poop
from meat eating animals can be used only if it is treated
to cut other chemicals.  This is done by combining pee and
poop and letting it ferment for about one year.  It will
then be safe to spread, though not to nice smelling.  This
is the method used throughout the rest of the world.  If
you ever get a chance to travel in Asia or Europe, you will
notice what are called honey wagons spreading the stuff on
their fields.

Do not put cat poop in the compost heap as it will not
ferment correctly.  Do not put chicken manure on the garden
unless it has been leached for about 2 or 3 months.  It is
very high in nitrogen and will kill young plants.

Although feces can be used as fertilizer, it is not a good
idea unless you know exactly how to treat it before use.
There are farms in the midwest that are using treated
waste from a local sewage treatment plant on an expiremental
basis, but as far as I know, results are not in yet.
T. C. Wheeler

chen@uiucdcsb.Uiuc.ARPA (09/19/85)

> Aren't there any people on the net who grew up on a farm?
> 
> I grew up in South Dakota, yet not on a farm, and even I know
> that the only fecal matter that's suitable for fertilizing
> is manure from herbivores (animals that only eat plants/grass).
> Carnivore (animals that eat meat) feces is not good for anything.
> 
> This is why cow/sheep/goat (herbivores) manure is used to fertilize
> gardens and lawns, and dog/cat (carnivores) poop causes brown rings and
> dead spots on your lawn.
> 
  I am no expert in fertilizers, but I do know for a fact that
in south-eastern Asia it is common practice to use the composted manure
of pigs, which are omnivores, as fertilizer.

Kaihu Chen
{ihnp4,vonvex,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!chen
chen!uiuc@cs-net.arpa
chen@uiuc.arpa
Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign