[net.garden] Artichokes - How hardy are they?

seb@mtgzy.UUCP (s.e.badian) (02/01/86)

	My husband and I adore artichokes and I would love to plant them
in my garden, but they're perennials and I don't know how well they
over-winter in sometimes chilly central NJ. Anyone in USDA zone 7
(lowest winter temps between 0 and 10 degrees F) have any luck with
them? Should I just forget it and buy California artichokes like the
rest of the country?
	(And before anyone says "Why don't you look in the gardening
catalogs?", let me tell you that I have. THEY say they're hardy enough
for zone 7 with heavy winter mulching, but I want some gardener
testimonials before I spend the money.)

Sharon Badian
ihnp4!mtgzz!mtgzy!seb

donn@hpfcla.UUCP (02/04/86)

# Written 12:14 pm  Feb  1, 1986 by seb@mtgzy.UUCP in net.garden
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# Subject: Artichokes - How hardy are they?

	My husband and I adore artichokes and I would love to plant them
in my garden, but they're perennials and I don't know how well they
over-winter in sometimes chilly central NJ. Anyone in USDA zone 7
(lowest winter temps between 0 and 10 degrees F) have any luck with
them? Should I just forget it and buy California artichokes like the
rest of the country?
	(And before anyone says "Why don't you look in the gardening
catalogs?", let me tell you that I have. THEY say they're hardy enough
for zone 7 with heavy winter mulching, but I want some gardener
testimonials before I spend the money.)

Sharon Badian
ihnp4!mtgzz!mtgzy!seb
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mmr@ritcv.UUCP (Margaret Reek) (02/04/86)

	I tried to grow artichokes last summer, here in Rochester NY,
which is colder than your area.  The catalog said "plants", but what
I got were dormant root, and they arrived so late that the 2 that actually
grew never got mature enough to do anything.  Also, artichokes need one
winter before they will produce a crop.

	I am trying again this year, following the directions given in
the National Gardening Association magazine.  Apparently there was a big
project to find new crops for Conn. farmers to grow, and they needed a way
to get the artichokes to produce the first year, since the overwinter 
survival rate was only about 35% in that area, even with mulching.
To get them to produce, from seed, the first year, you take the seeds and
soak them in water for 2 days.  Then put the seeds in damp peat moss and
toss in a bag in the fridge.  Check weekly for signs of damage, growth or
lack of moisture.  Keep in fridge for 3 to 4 weeks.  They supposedly will
germinate in there (mine haven't yet).  Transplant into 1 quart pots,
and give light for at least 8 hours a day until it is warm  enough to
move them outside for planting.  I can't remember all the rest, but you are
supposed to have artichokes by late summer.  Each plant produces 4-8 chokes.

	Another way mentioned in this same article to overwinter, was to
dig up the roots, and put them in a root cellar (or someplace cool), but
the success rate there was only about as good as leaving them in the ground
with mulch.

	Wish me luck, and to any other artichoke cravers silly enough to
try this in northern climes.

		Margaret Reek
		Rochester Institute of Technology
		rochester!ritcv!mmr