[net.bicycle] new forks

lim@mit-eddie.UUCP (Pean Lim) (11/15/84)

I happen to have one of those pseudo touring bikes that has 74 degree
head seat tubes, but is billed as a touring bike.  Here's my question:
does switching to a fork with more rake improve the ride appreciably?  I
have a 23" frame with a 39.3" wheelbase.  The offset of the fork is
1.8".  I'm wondering how much greater fork offsets are available and
what difference it can make.

[Side note: I just installed fenders and it turns out that I had to take
drastic steps to make sure that the toe-clips will clear the front
fender.  I'm glad I found out that they wouldn't clear while riding at a
relatively slow speed ... ]

Pean

wagner@uw-june (Dave Wagner) (11/20/84)

>   I happen to have one of those pseudo touring bikes that has 74 degree
>   head seat tubes, but is billed as a touring bike.  Here's my question:
>   does switching to a fork with more rake improve the ride appreciably?
>   I have a 23" frame with a 39.3" wheelbase.  The offset of the fork is
>   1.8".  I'm wondering how much greater fork offsets are available and
>   what difference it can make.

Front forks geometry is pretty subtle stuff.  By increasing fork rake,
you will probably increase hand comfort; but you will 
actually destabilize your bike by cutting down on the amount of fork trail!  
Trail is the property that allows you to wheel your bike
in a straight line without holding onto the handlebars.  It should be
much more difficult to control a bike if you reduce its trail substantially.

Trail is calculated in the following way:
project a line through the head tube down to the ground.  Also drop
a perpendicular to the ground from the hub axle.  The distance between
these two points on the ground is the trail.  The more trail, the more
stable the bike.  Note that by increasing the fork rake, you move the
hub axle forward relative to everything else, thus decreasing trail.
Bicycling magazine used to have good discussions of frame geometry
occasionally;  I think they've moved all that stuff to their Bike-Tech
newsletter (a real rip-off!).

Note also that by having too much trail (or is it too much fork rake, I
forget which) you can suffer from "wheel flop" - i.e. once turned, the
wheel resists being straightened.  This is because turning on the bike
actually drops you closer to the ground;  in order to straighten out
you are fighting gravity.  With the wrong fork geometry, you drop much
farther on turns than you ought to and have to fight to get the bike
back up!

In summary, seek out an expert before you buy a fork.  "Expert" means
FRAMEBUILDER, not bike mechanic, because most bike mechanics don't 
know the slightest thing about frame geometry (but they believe they
do, which is what makes them dangerous).


			Dave Wagner
			wagner@washington
			...decvax!uw-beaver!uw-june!wagner