[net.bicycle] Greg LeMon

tick@Shasta.ARPA (07/25/85)

Does anyone out there have an opinion on the following:

	What was Greg's understanding with La Vie Claire
	during the last stages of the Tour De France - 
	why did he feel obligated to work for Bernard
	on the last climb and then cry about it on t.v.?
	What reason could his manager have given him
	to hold back?  If Greg went into first place
	dropping Roche, La Vie Claire still had a winner.

	I am not so naive to misunderstand the chauvanism
	of the French, but was Greg?

	Evan Tick

jhs@druri.UUCP (ShoreJ) (07/27/85)

>What was Greg's understanding with La Vie Claire during the last stages of the 
>Tour De France - why did he feel obligated to work for Bernard on the last 
>climb and then cry about it on t.v.? What reason could his manager have given 
>him to hold back?  If Greg went into first place dropping Roche, La Vie Claire 
>still had a winner.
>
>I am not so naive to misunderstand the chauvanism
>of the French, but was Greg?  --  Evan Tick

He worked for Hinnault because "The Badger" hired him.

He cried about it on TV because business arrangements and Le Mond's integrity
don't cancel out emotions. And TV was there--Le Mond didn't ask for eyewitnesses
to his personal distress. He knew it might be his only/best chance, but he still
honored his commitment to Hinnault.

Speculation: his manager probably reminded him of all of the above, then noted
that he (Le Mond) could stick it in his ear forever after if he didn't honor
the contract, real or implied.

La Vie Claire having the winner be the FIVE-TIME Tour champion was more
important than just having *a* winner. You don't often get a chance to
plug your products with a "living legend" that shares the company of Mercyx 
(sp?) and Coppi.

You *are* naive (that's really not intended as a flame; but fair's fair, so 
fire back if that'll make you feel better). The French have no monopoly on 
chauvinism and it is not really important what the nationality of the rider was
in this case. [Do you recall that that "French" team had American, Canadian,
and Dutch (or was he Belgian?) riders working for Hinnault?]

Greg is no man's fool--witness his business dealings AND riding over the last
couple of years. All things being equal next year, Hinnault *will* "sacrifice
for Greg, and Le Mond will be the first American winner of the Tour.

-- Jeff Shore, ..!ihnp4!druri!jhs

leimkuhl@uiucdcsp.Uiuc.ARPA (07/29/85)

  I was in France on the days just prior to the tour, when everyone
was buzzing with tour gossip.  

  I picked up a few French cycling magazines (Le Velo, Le Cycle, etc.)
which contained previews of the tour and interviews with the racers.

  In an interview with Hinault in Le Velo, the racer made it quite 
clear that Lemond was to work for him in the tour.  I was rather
surprised by his candid discussion of a deal he had struck with 
Lemond:  "Greg pourra me demander tous qu'il veux."  (Greg will be
able to ask of me whatever he wants.)  This in exchange for Lemond's
help in the tour.

  I am not sure, then, why Lemond rebelled on Luz-Arbidan.  After all,
he had been effectively recruited by Hinault and given a very hefty salary
and great promotional freedom by La Vie Claire.  And of course he was
well aware that with Hinault's self-pronounced retirement from the
spotlight to follow the tour, he would become the leader of a very
strong and well-backed team--a position which could eventually elevate
Lemond to the stature of a Merycxx or Hinault.  He is still quite young,
after all.  Also, Lemond and Hinault are quite close, and I think that
Lemond genuinely wanted to give Hinault this swansong.

  I suspect that what happened is this: Lemond found himself
suddenly with a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to win the tour in a single
stage--in a two man break with the very strong Roche.  
The only opportunity after Luz-Arbidan for someone to make up
a significant amount of time was a shortish time-trial, and in Hinault's
fatigued state, Lemond wouldn't have lost too much time there.  (He later
won that stage, but that was very likely a consolation gift from Hinault.)

  So Lemond suddenly realized that he had a shot at the win.  The Tour has
always been his greatest ambition, so it is not surprising that his 
strong competitive instincts took over in this situation.  It was then
the duty of the team to remind him of his obligations, of his
friendship with the great man, and of the great possibilities that
lie in store for him as the leader of La Vie Claire.  I suspect that
we will begin to get a taste of things to come in the remainder of the
season as Hinault and the team seek to establish Lemond as the next great
champion.


-Ben Leimkuhler

rogerh@bocklin.UUCP (07/29/85)

Bicycling is a team sport.  Lemond rode to team orders, in a very tough
situation.  

If he had gone on and worked with Roche, he might not have dropped 
him; if he had, it would not have been by 4 minutes.  So by sitting
on Roche's wheel, he protected Hinualt's lead of over 5 minutes on
Roche.  Any time he made on Hinault, would have helped Roche do 
the same.  The result might have been Roche, not Lemond, as the 
eventual winner.  (There was still a time trial ahead, remember).

He was upset about it, of course -- he was close enough to taste it.
As he said on TV, it might have been a once-in-a-lifetime chance.
Let's hope not.  He certainly has shown a great deal of ability, and
a great deal of class in doing the honorable thing on that climb in
the Pyrenees.

leimkuhl@uiucdcsp.Uiuc.ARPA (08/03/85)

excuse me:  "Ardiden" for "Arbidan"
            "Merckx" for "Mercxxxxxxxx"