[net.bicycle] Squeaky handlebars

kjchapman@wateng.UUCP (Kevin J. Chapman) (09/20/85)

	Since my original posting elicited no response, I thought I'd
    have another stab at it.
 
The posting:

	I've got a problem:  my year-and-a-half old Miyata 1000 has
    recently started suffering from creaky handlebars.  They creak
    when I apply pressure on one side or the other, but not both,
    which leads me to think that the stem or headset might be the problem.
    I've tried tightening the stem clamp, but to no avail.  Does anyone
    have any ideas?  If it will help, the bars are the alloy type with
    a reinforcing tube in the centre (Sakae Road Champion Randonneur),
    stem is an SR Royal, and headset is a Tange Levin sealed bearing.

		Thanks in advance,
			Kevin
-- 
   
                          Kevin Chapman
                          Computer Communications Networks Group
                          Waterversity of Uniloo
                          'Loo, Ont., Canada

reintom@rocky2.UUCP (Tom Reingold) (09/24/85)

>     I've got a problem:  my year-and-a-half old Miyata 1000 has
>  recently started suffering from creaky handlebars.  They creak
>  when I apply pressure on one side or the other, but not both,
>  which leads me to think that the stem or headset might be the problem.
>  I've tried tightening the stem clamp, but to no avail.  Does anyone
>  have any ideas?  If it will help, the bars are the alloy type with
>  a reinforcing tube in the centre (Sakae Road Champion Randonneur),
>  stem is an SR Royal, and headset is a Tange Levin sealed bearing.

>Thanks in advance,
>	Kevin

I guaranty that the following will work:

Loosen the handlebar clamp of the stem (the part of the
stem that clamps the handlebar).  Spray some WD-40 or
some equivalent lubricant in there.  Don't worry if you
can't see where you are spraying.  It will find its way
even in if you are not careful.  Tighten the clamp again.

I promise that the handlebar will not slip within the stem
and that the squeak will be gone.

Tom Reingold
(212) 304-2504

tom@oasys.UUCP (09/24/85)

> 
> 	Since my original posting elicited no response, I thought I'd
>     have another stab at it.
>  
> The posting:
> 
> 	I've got a problem:  my year-and-a-half old Miyata 1000 has
>     recently started suffering from creaky handlebars.  They creak
>     when I apply pressure on one side or the other, but not both,
>     which leads me to think that the stem or headset might be the problem.
>     I've tried tightening the stem clamp, but to no avail.  Does anyone
>     have any ideas?  If it will help, the bars are the alloy type with
>     a reinforcing tube in the centre (Sakae Road Champion Randonneur),
>     stem is an SR Royal, and headset is a Tange Levin sealed bearing.
> 
> 		Thanks in advance,
> 			Kevin
> -- 
>    
>                           Kevin Chapman
>                           Computer Communications Networks Group
>                           Waterversity of Uniloo
>                           'Loo, Ont., Canada

The details of where and how your bars and stem squeak don't really
matter.  Just apply some grease to every point where metal contacts       
metal.  This includes the binder bolt and its threads, the wedge piece
that screws on to it, the point where the binder bolt seats at the top of 
the stem , all points on the bolt in the stem that tightens down on
the bars, and the area where the stem contacts the bars, and the area
around the stem where it slides down into the head tube.

			Tom Nelson

kjchapman@wateng.UUCP (Kevin J. Chapman) (09/25/85)

	Thanks to Rob, Hans, Michael, Les, and Jon for their suggestions
   on how to silence my squeaky handlebars.  Some of the suggestions were
   things I'd already thought of and tried, but I appreciate the efforts
   of those who responded.
	I seem to have solved the problem without having found out
   exactly what it was.  Suggested causes were:

		1) stem mounted too high, causing stress to be transferred
		  to top of slit in expanding stem
		2) brake levers not tight enough (they would squeak if
		  you ride with your hands on the hoods)
		3) squeaky saddle - try riding with your bum in the air
		  to test this
		4) try sliding bars to the side, lubricating the area
		  where they touch the stem (without letting any oil
		  touch the rims :-)), and reassemble
		5) reinforcing sleeve has worked its way loose - no solution

	In my case a combination of 4 and some fiddling (loosening the binder
    bolt, wiggling the stem, and retightening) seems to have done the trick
    for now.  I guess only time will tell for sure.

			Kevin

P.S. Replies to /dev/null, I'm afraid.  I will be leaving tomorrow.
	Good luck to all...
-- 
   
                          Kevin Chapman
                          Computer Communications Networks Group
                          Waterversity of Uniloo
                          'Loo, Ont., Canada

powers@noscvax.UUCP (William J. Powers) (09/27/85)

> 
> 	Since my original posting elicited no response, I thought I'd
>     have another stab at it.
>  
> The posting:
> 
> 	I've got a problem:  my year-and-a-half old Miyata 1000 has
>     recently started suffering from creaky handlebars.  They creak
>     when I apply pressure on one side or the other, but not both,
>     which leads me to think that the stem or headset might be the problem.
>     I've tried tightening the stem clamp, but to no avail.  Does anyone
>     have any ideas?  If it will help, the bars are the alloy type with
>     a reinforcing tube in the centre (Sakae Road Champion Randonneur),
>     stem is an SR Royal, and headset is a Tange Levin sealed bearing.
> 
> 		Thanks in advance,
> 			Kevin
> -- 
>    
>                           Kevin Chapman
>                           Computer Communications Networks Group
>                           Waterversity of Uniloo
>                           'Loo, Ont., Canada

I had a similar problem and one bike shop suggested that I grease the
stem.  It didn't surprise me that this did'nt work.  I think the more
likely cause of this problem is that either the stem is not far enough
down inside the fork or that the stem is too small.  Check both of
these.  Let us know if you are able to solve this problem.

Bill Powers.

tom@oasys.UUCP (10/02/85)

> > 
> > 	Since my original posting elicited no response, I thought I'd
> >     have another stab at it.
> >  
> > The posting:
> > 
> > 	I've got a problem:  my year-and-a-half old Miyata 1000 has
> >     recently started suffering from creaky handlebars.  They creak
> >     when I apply pressure on one side or the other, but not both,
> >     which leads me to think that the stem or headset might be the problem.
> >     I've tried tightening the stem clamp, but to no avail.  Does anyone
> >     have any ideas?  If it will help, the bars are the alloy type with
> >     a reinforcing tube in the centre (Sakae Road Champion Randonneur),
> >     stem is an SR Royal, and headset is a Tange Levin sealed bearing.
> > 
> > 		Thanks in advance,
> > 			Kevin
> > -- 
> >    
> >                           Kevin Chapman
> >                           Computer Communications Networks Group
> >                           Waterversity of Uniloo
> >                           'Loo, Ont., Canada
> 
> I had a similar problem and one bike shop suggested that I grease the
> stem.  It didn't surprise me that this did'nt work.  I think the more
> likely cause of this problem is that either the stem is not far enough
> down inside the fork or that the stem is too small.  Check both of
> these.  Let us know if you are able to solve this problem.
> 
> Bill Powers.

If it didn't work its because you didn't grease the point that creaks.
Like I said before, you have to grease every point where metal contacts metal
because you can't hope to isolate where the exact problem is.  This is a 
problem I've encountered often in 9 years of racing on a national level and
I've always been able to fix it this way.

				Tom Nelson