[net.bicycle] Orphaned Response

mcderma@pur-ee.UUCP (09/04/83)

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pur-ee!mcderma    Jul  6 11:43:00 1983

I dont know anything about their ride across the country, but i did happen
to see Lon and Suzie on the TOSRV ride in Ohio in May, and when they passed
me I had the feeling a Mac truck was passing, so id probally say they could
make it to New York in 9 days.  If anyone really knows, id also be interested.

						Andy McDermott

wisen@inmet.UUCP (05/16/84)

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inmet!wisen    May 14 15:36:00 1984

	Problem with BIG handlerbar bags:
Excess weight in that position will seriously degrade your steering and 
handling.  So handlebar bag may be good for camera, maps, and munchies,
but don't put your gallon container of extra water in it.
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wisen@inmet.UUCP (05/16/84)

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inmet!wisen    May 14 15:34:00 1984

	Whoaaaa there, Joe!!
Do NOT test your helmet by bashing it with a hammer!  Bell helmets and the
like are not designed for multiple impacts.  The instructions say "replace
helmet after crash (if you live)".  If you bang your helmet with a hammer,
it later might not save your noggin when you need it.
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guest@hplvle.UUCP (guest) (09/19/84)

< tramp, tramp, tramp >

I am an avid backpacker and an enthusiastic bicyclist.  I don't think
bicycles belong in the backcountry.  Ever seen a vacant lot where kids
have been riding thier BMX bicycles?  The result is invariably severe
and irreversable erosion.  Many of the hiking trails where I live 
(Northern Colorado) are at high altitudes where the short growing 
season makes it unlikely that vegetation will completely recover
from one summer's two-wheeled onslaught by the next summer.  

There *are* plenty of places to ride a "mountain bike."  Most
(non-wilderness) national forest lands are crisscrossed by a 
network of fire roads which are intended to withstand light
vehicle traffic.  The district ranger station will sell a 
forest map showing roads and trails for a couple of dollars.
Please use the roads and stay off the foot trails.

Now if we could just get rid of the horses...

David L. Rick
hpfcla!hplvla!drick

mike@hpfcla.UUCP (mike) (07/24/85)

Speaking as the husband of a cop, one reason frequently cited by street
cops for being reluctant to issue tickets to bicycle riders in our city
is the fact that our traffic code was years out of date. There's simply
very little deterrent value to a $3.00 ticket for running a stop sign,
particularly if no point penalties are assessed against a license. It's
hardly worth the effort to write the ticket. The same offense by an
automobile driver is a lot more painful and hence there's a lot more
deterrent value. Once the city made the fines more in line with automobile
penalties, enforcement improved. I would like to think that compliance
improved, too.

Many cities are still using traffic codes for bicycles that were enacted
ages ago. The fact that they haven't been updated is an indication of
the city government's priority scale.

Mike McNelly	hplabs!hpfcla!mike

paulson@ihu1g.UUCP (Bill Paulson) (07/30/85)

> Speaking as the husband of a cop, one reason frequently cited by street
> cops for being reluctant to issue tickets to bicycle riders in our city
> is the fact that our traffic code was years out of date. There's simply
> very little deterrent value to a $3.00 ticket . . .

Oddly enough, the major reason cited by a Naperville policeman for not
writing tickets is that the fines are too high.  Seems that the minimum
moving violation is $50.  Imagine 11 year old Timmy's father when he
gets the bill.

I believe another reason that police are reluctant to ticket has to do
with the relative maneuverability of bicycles and cars.  Imagine a
policeman sitting at a traffic light when a bike whizzes by at 18 mph,
through the red light, on the wrong side of the road.  Does the cop do a
U-turn, catch up with the perpetrator, and hand out a citation, or does
he sit in his car and say "Damn kids"?

-- 

			Bill Paulson
			ihu1g!paulson
			IH 2D311 x6609

bill@utastro.UUCP (William H. Jefferys) (08/01/85)

> I believe another reason that police are reluctant to ticket has to do
> with the relative maneuverability of bicycles and cars.  Imagine a
> policeman sitting at a traffic light when a bike whizzes by at 18 mph,
> through the red light, on the wrong side of the road.  Does the cop do a
> U-turn, catch up with the perpetrator, and hand out a citation, or does
> he sit in his car and say "Damn kids"?
> 
I think it has more to do with the fact that bikes are considered to
be toys and not vehicles.  As long as this attitude is common, the
police are unlikely to take bicycle violations seriously.

-- 
"Men never do evil so cheerfully and so completely as when they do so from
	religious conviction."  -- Blaise Pascal

	Bill Jefferys  8-%
	Astronomy Dept, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712   (USnail)
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anny@hpfcde.UUCP (anny) (08/14/85)

A cateye solar is a cyclometer with solar assist to it's battery (or battery
assist to it's solar).  A cyclometer is a neato little computer that goes
on your bike to measure some (depending on the brand) of the following:

	current speed
	average speed 
	maximum speed
	cadence 
	elapsed time

My husband's cateye solar also has 3 (I think) programable beepers.  He sets
his to go off at speeds above 30 mph and elapsed time of 30 minutes.  It's
a neat toy.  Also, racers are using them alot now.  At the Coors Classic,
we saw a bunch of them.  

Anny Randel
Hewlett-Packard
Ft. Collins, CO
hplabs!hpfcla!anny

marc@hpltca.UUCP (marc) (09/24/85)

If Connie is tough enough to want to ride with the men, I think that
she ought to be allowed to.  Maybe it would even make sense to do away
with the current division between mens' and womens' racing altogether,
and have everyone compete with others of their own competetive level.

Marc (ain't sexism wunnerful?) Clarke, Loveland, Colorado
hplabs!hpfcla!hpltcb!marc

marc@hpltca.UUCP (marc) (11/01/85)

Is there any tangible difference ( other than price ) betwen PVC rollers and
aluminium rollers?  Are the metal ones smoother to ride?  Does one hold up 
better than the other?

Marc Clarke, Hewlett-Packard, hplabs!hpfcla!hpltcb!marc

blanken@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU (11/08/85)

  Okay.  Let's get some background first.  The metal rollers were the 
first edition.  They were constructed with the idea of durability.  It
wasn't until after the advent of tough polymers that someone got the 
bright idea to construct them with PVC.  The motivation was to reduce cost
for the consumer.

Tangible differences?(besides cost?).  Smoother ride with less noise.

Some advocates of Alloy drums might also be inclined to say that they
produce a quality ride when a turbo fan is added for resistance, better
than PVC.  The effect is the same, only the alloy is much smoother.

Eric Blankenburg
U of I, Urbana