[net.bicycle] TACX Rollers

bellows@uiucdcsb.CS.UIUC.EDU (12/17/85)

Has anyone out there had experience with the TACX rollers with wind resistance
fans?  It is supposed to have strong bearings and two plastic fans which
generate more resistance than anyone would need.  I haven't had a chance to
try them out yet, but a local shop can order them for me for $145.

Comments on the kind of workout this system gives and other similar products
would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Doug Bellows

reg@mentor.DEC (01/02/86)

	A little while ago someone asked for experiences of people 
with TACX rollers, here are mine:-

	I bought a set of TAXC rollers last winter and enjoy them
enormously !  I think I paid $119 mail order. 

	The work outs you can expect are principally aerobic.  Athough
you CAN make the load very heavy it is essentially limited to what you
can push while seated, i.e. it won't help your sprints or standing
climbs very much, but it will help your basic strength and fitness
building.  It will also improve your "form" a lot by helping you learn
to deliver your power more evenly throughout the circle.  I think that
this is because there is very little inertia to carry you through the
top, so you become much more aware of the acceleration/decceleration
that stomping causes.  When you really get your balance the upper body
relaxes a lot more and you just seem able to put all the energy into
turning the cranks.  I was surprised at how useful this was for dirt
riding, where it is often necessary to put out a lot of smoooooth
power in a low gear while climbing a lose surface.  It seems to be
generally agreed that the rides are also less boring than with
stationary trainers since you have the balancing parameter to contend
with. 

	Here's a couple of tips:-

	If you are using them in a very dry climate (New England
winter) you may experience static build up.  I have solved this on my
set by adding small coat hanger wire loops to the frame, these support
small metal chains that hang lightly over the rollers and then touch
the ground. 

	The great thing about the TACX set up is that you can run them
with one, two or no fans.  In conjunction with a closely spaced set of
sprockets you can get just about any load you wish at any cadence, you
also can chose the slope of the curve at that point.  If you break a
fan don't throw it out, cut off the rest of that side and use it as a
half fan.  Then you have a four way choice: 0, 1/2, 1, 1 1/2, you may
not want to bother with replacing the second fan, 1 1/2 is enough for
most people.  Another way to get the same effect is to tape over one
side of an unbroken fan. 

	The fans are quite fragile, to make storage easier I have
mounted the vertical brackets onto two short lengths of wood which I
just "plug in" to the rear ends of the side rails.  This also has the
advantages that the noise is quite a lot farther back, they are less
easily kicked when mounting/dismounting and there is nothing to trip
the back wheel when I ride clean off the side. 

	While learning:-

	Leave both fans disconnected, in fact its probably better that
you don't assemble them onto the rollers for a while, its very easy to
tread on them when learning to mount/dismount from the extra 5-6
inches of height that you get with rollers. 

	Position the rollers about 6 inches from a wall, if you are
right handed this should probably be on your right when you are
riding. 

	If at all possible have someone help you stay on the rollers
by steadying the bike at the head tube, not to help your balance, just
to keep the wheels on the rollers.  A helper doesn't have to be an
experienced roller rider themselves and they don't have to be very
strong, just understand their role and provide some physco support
too.  If you can't get a helper just crook your wall-side arm a bit so
you can hold the bars and keep your elbow against the wall for
balance. 

	Get your speed up to 30 or so KmPH (19-20 MPH).  This is the
toughest part because at first the steering is very twitchy, but just
like when you first learned to ride it will get a lot more stable the
faster you go. 

	Before you add a fan find some way to cover the head-set and
top tube, it can be surprising just how much "moisture" seeps from the
brow and just gets lost in the wind when on the road.  On rollers that
evaporative effect is lost and you probably don't want to rot out the
frame, sure it eats imron. 

	Reg

marcum@sun.uucp (Alan Marcum) (01/04/86)

I recently got a set of Kreitler rollers, and also like them very
much.  Regarding learning to ride them, I recommend putting the
rollers in a doorway, positioned so that elbows and shoulders can
be used to right oneself when beginning to fall in either direction.
And, don't worry, if you actually DO fall off the rollers, everything
just stops -- now (experience talking!).
-- 
Alan M. Marcum				Sun Microsystems, Technical Consulting
...!{dual,ihnp4}!sun!nescorna!marcum	Mountain View, California

bellows@uiucdcsb.CS.UIUC.EDU (01/08/86)

Thanks for the info on rollers (I wrote the original request).  I've bought
myself a set of the new Tacx rollers and I think I'm going to enjoy them.
I've learned to balance on the things although I haven't hooked up the fans yet.
I found that the best way to learn was to lean against one side of the doorway,
get your wheels up to speed, and then inch the wheels closer to the wall so that
you can start balancing yourself.  If you are in a doorway you can catch your-
self on either side, and you can lean on the doorway without interrupting your
legs' spinning.

The new rollers have heavy metal fan guards, so the fan-breakage problem doesn't
exist anymore.

Happy spinning,
Doug Bellows (bellows@B.CS.UIUC.EDU)