andrew@aimmi.UUCP (Andrew Stewart) (03/18/86)
I have heard a great deal about a system called CEDAR which has been developed at Xerox PARC as a follow-on to much of their work on Interlisp, Smalltalk, etc. I heard a rumour that there a machine available, for a fairly sensible price, running CEDAR. Is this true? Who makes it, and where can I contact them? If not, where can I get hold of documentation about CEDAR (other than the short papers that keep popping up in conference proceedings)? -- ------------------------------------------- Andrew Stewart USENET: ...!mcvax!ukc!aimmi!andrew "My axioms just fell into a Klein bottle"
alfke@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu (J. Peter Alfke) (04/01/86)
Organization : California Institute of Technology In article <746@aimmi.UUCP> andrew@aimmi.UUCP (Andrew Stewart) writes: > >I have heard a great deal about a system called CEDAR which has been developed >at Xerox PARC as a follow-on to much of their work on Interlisp, Smalltalk, >etc. I heard a rumour that there a machine available, for a fairly sensible >price, running CEDAR. Is this true? Who makes it, and where can I contact >them? >If not, where can I get hold of documentation about CEDAR (other than the short >papers that keep popping up in conference proceedings)? Cedar ("Not an acronym, but an amazing simulation") is a follow-up to Xerox's Tajo environment (aka XDE, Xerox Development Environment), which is a nifty windowing system for and in Mesa, a sort of hyper-Pascal. I've worked with Tajo (at Xerox) and it's way rockin'. Cedar added neat stuff, some of it inspired by Smalltalk, most of it apparently debugging sort of stuff, graphical debugging and all that. I have never used or seen it. Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center) must have some "Blue-and-White" reports on Cedar; you could write to them and ask. Cedar should run on the new Xerox Daybreak (I forget the numbers) machines. They are pretty reasonably priced, comparable to Suns I believe. I can believe in easily available versions of Cedar; the Mesa people at Xerox are somewhat less psychotic than the Smalltalk people (I'm talkin' PARC, now, not the swell folks at Pasadena). --Peter Alfke alfke@csvax.caltech.edu alfke@cit-vax.uucp (I respect a company that makes up non-acronym names for things!)