[net.lang.st80] Looking for Info about Smalltalk

krubin@gitpyr.UUCP (Kenny Rubin) (05/20/86)

I am working on a project that is in search of an implementation
language. My colleagues and I feel that some form of data-object
oriented language would be appropriate. We have heard some good
comments about Smalltalk and wish to learn more about it. We are
especially interested in finding a good implementation for the
IBM-PC/XT. So if anyone knows of a vendor of such a product, that
information would be very useful. In addition, any information
such as product reviews, personal experience, or general advice
about finding information on Smalltalk would be of value.

If you can be of any service please respond.

	      Thanx in advance.



Kenny Rubin
Georgia Insitute of Technology
POB 35826
Atlanta Georgia, 30332

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rfl@oddjob.UUCP (Bob Loewenstein) (05/24/86)

Chuck Duff, the primary author of Neon, an object oriented language
for the Macintosh is almost finished with a product for the IBM-PC.
It is an object oriented language modeled after smalltalk, as was
Neon, but is even more smalltalk-like.  I have not seen the language,
called Actor, but it should be out in the fall. The language defaults 
to late binding, but one has the option of early binding. This should
improve speed.

If anyone is interest in more information, I can post Chuck's
company's address on the net.

bdv2@ur-tut.UUCP (Bruce Verner) (05/31/86)

In article <1806@gitpyr.UUCP> krubin@gitpyr.UUCP (Kenny Rubin) writes:
>I am working on a project that is in search of an implementation
>language. My colleagues and I feel that some form of data-object
>oriented language would be appropriate. We have heard some good
>comments about Smalltalk and wish to learn more about it. We are
>especially interested in finding a good implementation for the
>IBM-PC/XT. So if anyone knows of a vendor of such a product, that
>information would be very useful. In addition, any information
>such as product reviews, personal experience, or general advice
>about finding information on Smalltalk would be of value.


The versions of Smalltalk for the IBM-PC are Methods by Digitalk and
Smalltalk-80 version 2 by Softsmarts in Woodside, California.  Methods
is a modified subset of Smalltalk with a character oriented windowing
interface.  It runs on the PC/XT with fairly reasonable performance.
Softsmarts Smalltalk is a genuine implementation of the full Xerox
Smalltalk-80 release using bit-map graphics for the PC/AT.  Digitalk
advertises in Byte and Softsmarts in CACM.  Other members of the net
will likely be able to provide more details.  I believe someone posted brief
performance evaluations of these a couple months ago.  There is also
a good implementation of ST version 1 (with extensions) for the Apple
Macintosh from Apple Computer.  Contact me if you need more information. 

(Another more obscure ST subset for the PC is/was Asolv Smalltalk
by Christopher Maicie.)

Bruce D. Verner

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