tomi@mcvax.uucp (Tetsuo Tomiyama) (10/24/86)
We are very much interested in Smalltalk-80 implementation for Sun-2/3s. We know there is an implementation from Berkley and we would like to know its performance, goodies, etc., from somebody who are using it. I have also read on the net that Xerox has started distributing Smalltalk for Sun's. Is there anyone over the net who have any information about this? (Price, applicable machines, conditions of license, contact address, etc.) As usual, if I received many reactions, I will summarize. --Tetsuo Tomiyama Interactive Systems, Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science, Kruislaan 413, 1098 SJ Amsterdam, The Netherlands Telex: 12571 mactr nl, Telephone: +31-20-592 9333/4144 Usenet: tomi@mcvax.UUCP (....!seismo!mcvax!tomi)
rentsch@unc.UUCP (Tim Rentsch) (10/27/86)
Here at UNC we have used both the Berkeley and Xerox PS
interpreters, and on both sun-2's and sun-3's. I would judge the
performance as follows:
Berkeley ("bs")
Sun-2 barely tolerable
Sun-3 reasonable
Xerox PS
Sun-2 reasonable
Sun-3 excellent
To be fair to Berkeley Smalltalk, I would say that it is better
integrated into Unix (uses Unix new lines, unlike Xerox PS which
uses carriage returns), and is in some sense a better experimental
tool since the interpreter source code is available. (We do not
have source code for the Xerox PS interpreter here at UNC, although
I suppose some sites do.)
Since we have gone through the exercise here of getting around
various shortcomings in the Xerox PS interpreter, I was planning on
posting some bug fixes and goodies to the net. Is anyone out there
interested, or will I just be wasting my time?
cheers,
Tim Rentschsdl@linus.UUCP (Steven D. Litvintchouk) (10/29/86)
Since we have gone through the exercise here of getting around
various shortcomings in the Xerox PS interpreter, I was planning on
posting some bug fixes and goodies to the net. Is anyone out there
interested, or will I just be wasting my time?
We're interested.
Steven Litvintchouk
MITRE Corporation
Burlington Road
Bedford, MA 01730
Fone: (617)271-7753
ARPA: sdl@mitre-bedford
UUCP: ...{cbosgd,decvax,genrad,ll-xn,philabs,security,utzoo}!linus!sdlrfl@oddjob.UUCP (Bob Loewenstein) (10/31/86)
> Since we have gone through the exercise here of getting around > various shortcomings in the Xerox PS interpreter, I was planning on > posting some bug fixes and goodies to the net. Is anyone out there > interested, or will I just be wasting my time? > I'm interested....
hmm@exunido.UUCP (11/01/86)
I'm interested, too. I've tried to tackle the newline problem in PS once, but was not very successful (destroyed a working image accidentally). I also don't know which would be the right place to translate CR to LF and vice versa (I don't have access to BS at the moment, so I can't look at that). If anyone has a solution, please send mail or post! Hans-Martin Mosner University of Dortmund