bingham@mruxe.UUCP (B Bingham) (05/09/85)
I support creating such a group. Besides talking about LOTR
and the Hobbit, Chris Tolkein has just come out with another volume
of his father's very early works, including some of his earliest writings
still extant. I'm sure many would find reading about his early work and
how it molded his writings decades later very interesting. Net.books.jrrt
might be an appropriate name for the group.
However, newsgroups are usually created only after a discussion
has been going on for awhile in another group and people start complaining
about having to use their 'n' keys too often. Therefore, I suggest that
unless there is an immediate demand from say, dozens of readers to create
the group right away, that we use net.books to start a discussion or two
and then see how it fares.
b2 {backbone}!bellcore!b2med@astrovax.UUCP (Mark Dickinson) (05/09/85)
> I support creating such a group. Besides talking about LOTR > and the Hobbit, Chris Tolkein has just come out with another volume > of his father's very early works, including some of his earliest writings > still extant. Well, I don't know if there's any need at present for a separate newsgroup for the subject, but I certainly wouldn't mind if there were some discussion of it here in net.books. First off, a question with regard to the above quoted excerpt: does this mean that the third volume of "The History of Middle Earth" has been published? I have not seen it yet, but the bookstores in my part of the world may just be slow. I enjoyed "The Book of Lost Tales" immensely, but I am particularly anxious to see (at long last) the text(s) if "The Lay of Leithan" and some of Tolkien's other major poetic work. I've been an enthusiast of epic verse since reading Beowulf way back when, and I'm eager to read Tolkien's efforts. The volume will also include C. S. Lewis' commentaries and criticisms of the Lays, or so it is said. Anyway, if the book is now available, I'd appreciate someone letting me know. Mark Dickinson
frodo@wcom.UUCP (Jim Scardelis) (05/10/85)
> However, newsgroups are usually created only after a discussion > has been going on for awhile in another group and people start complaining > about having to use their 'n' keys too often. Therefore, I suggest that > unless there is an immediate demand from say, dozens of readers to create > the group right away, that we use net.books to start a discussion or two > and then see how it fares. > > b2 {backbone}!bellcore!b2 Tolkien's books are about the only books I would enjoy discussing... I'm all for creating a net.books.tolkien. I'm on a small system, receiving a limited news feed (due to disk space), and net.books is too large to add, but a group limited to Tolkien would be welcomed with open arms (?) ! Jim Scardelis -- uucp: {vax135|ihnp4}!timeinc!wcom!frodo ARPA: 1891@NJIT-EIES.MAILNET@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA "The opinions expressed herein are those of my computer, and not necessarily those of myself, Warner Computer Systems, or any other computer or company along the line. "
lat@leopard.UUCP (Laurie) (05/10/85)
> > I support creating such a group. Besides talking about LOTR > > and the Hobbit, Chris Tolkien has just come out with another volume > > of his father's very early works, including some of his earliest writings > > still extant. > I also support such a group, or at least continuing the discussion. I have been an avid Tolkien fan for as long as I can remember; well, ok, only since 5th grade. But you have to admit that "the Hobbit" is pretty tough going for a 5th grader to read on her own (I even use to think that there really WAS a Middle-Earth for the longest time!!!). I have the whole set of LOTR (including "the Hobbit"), "The Tolkien Reader", and "the Silmarillion", but if there was anything else put out by a Tolkien, I seemed to have missed it. Could someone send me the titles of anything else that has been published concerning Tolkien's world, be it by Tolkien or someone else? Laurie ps. i still find myself re-reading all four books about once every 12-14 months, and i can still manage to find something i missed on the previous reading, even after 12 years! my paperbacks are so shot i am going to have to go out and buy a new set pretty soon. -- Laurie {ihnp4, gatech, allegra}!leopard!lat
cv@linus.UUCP (Chris J. Valas) (05/10/85)
-=- In article <107@mruxe.UUCP> bingham@mruxe.UUCP (B Bingham) writes: > > I support creating such a group. Besides talking about LOTR >and the Hobbit, Chris Tolkein has just come out with another volume >of his father's very early works, including some of his earliest writings >still extant. Christopher Tolkien is still sucking nourishment from his father's corpse? Nice work, if you can get it... Send flames to the parasite. Chris J. Valas {decvax,utzoo,philabs,security,allegra,genrad}!linus!cv -=-
cv@linus.UUCP (Chris J. Valas) (05/10/85)
-=- In article <589@astrovax.UUCP> med@astrovax.UUCP (Mark Dickinson) writes: >I've been an enthusiast of epic verse since reading Beowulf way back when, >and I'm eager to read Tolkien's efforts. Anyone who has read Beowulf would probably be interested in reading _Grendel_ by John Gardner. (I think.) It's the whole story from the monster's point of view, and I found it far more entertaining than the original, possibly because the style of the latter was so wooden. But then, so is the style of most epic mythology. Chris J. Valas {decvax,utzoo,philabs,security,allegra,genrad}!linus!cv -=- "Dorien, do *you* think Lord Henry is the Devil incarnate?"
avolio@decuac.UUCP (Frederick M. Avolio) (05/10/85)
I haven't seen very much traffic in net.books or net.sf-lovers to
warrent a net.books.tolkien or whatever. Have they been going to
another group? Have I been missing all of them (more likely). Why
not post to one of the above until it seems like the volume warrants a
new group.
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Fred Avolio {decvax,seismo}!decuac!avolio 301/731-4100 x4227myers@uwmacc.UUCP (Jeff Myers) (05/12/85)
> > Christopher Tolkien is still sucking nourishment from his father's corpse? > > Nice work, if you can get it... > > Send flames to the parasite. > > Chris J. Valas If you had read Tolkien's letters, you would realize the close relationship shared by father and son during all phases of JRRs life. Christopher was always sent drafts of the LOTR chapters while he was in the army, Christopher is the one who drew the maps for LOTR, etc. Maybe you are just making morbid jokes? jeff m