[net.religion] On the subject of preaching

dyl (03/22/83)

Christians have been accused of preaching and evangelizing on the net.  Part
of the reason being that people equate preaching with quoting from the Bible.
I myself like to back my foolishness up with scripture and see no reason to
change.  Quoting from scripture to me is like giving relevant reverences in
an engineering journal.  The last thing I would do is to plagiarize the Bible.

The same people that accuse Christians of preaching are themselves preaching
if you want to be *technical* about it.  You are preaching against Jesus
Christ, you are preaching godlessness, you are preaching confusion (so called
open-mindness), you are preaching against freedom of speech, and you are trying to pick up followers.

So, from now on, let us not accuse each other of preaching and simply exchange
opinions on the net.  There is no reason for us to see eye to eye on every
issue.  After all, what I think or you think matters very little as we all
die like men before us.  It is God that justifies.

Though the Christian belief has no respect for other religions (One of God's
names is I AM, meaning that all others are not), my knowledge in Christ helps
me respect each person as an individual.  I once also was a non-believer.

P.S.  I admire the person that has the wisdom of being fluent in 8 languages.
I hope that you would seek the Bible on the subject of wisdom.  Here are
two starters.

	1 Corinthians 1:25
		For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom,
		and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.
	1 Corinthians 8:2-3
		The man who thinks he knows something does not yet know
		as he ought to know.  But the man who loves God is known
		by God.
floyd!dyl

tim (03/23/83)

Christians *are* preaching on the net. What's wrong with that? If they
truly believe, it's their duty to preach. What I object to is distortion
and confusion.

Tim Maroney

don (03/23/83)

 ***** SEVERE FLAME WARNING!!! *****

 In response to the following statement from Dave Lee:

      The same people that accuse Christians of preaching
      are themselves preaching if you want to be *technical*
      about it.  You are preaching against Jesus Christ, you
      are preaching godlessness, you are preaching confusion
      (so called open-mindness), you are preaching against
      freedom of speech, and you are trying to pick up
      followers.

Preaching, yes, but:


1)  "preaching against Jesus"

   It amazes me how little the fundamentalism that calls itself
   "Christianity" has to do with the teachings of Jesus.
   Jesus said "Resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee
   on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."
   Fundamentalists seem to be adept at smiting, but I'm afraid
   they have yet to master turning.  Jesus prevented a mob from
   murdering a woman for violating the sexual ethics of their
   culture.  I doubt Jerry Falwell would have lifted a finger.
   I'm not against the teachings of Jesus; I am opposed to
   taking a religion that represents centuries of doctrinal
   changes, additions, and deletions, and declaring it to be
   "Christianity" and everything else to be "against Jesus
   Christ".


2)  "preaching confusion (so-called open-mindness)"

   Just who do you think is confused?  To those with open
   minds I submit the following, all the works of
   fundamentalist "Christians":
   
   * The Inquisitions
   
   * The torture and murder of countless "heretics"
   
   * the persecution of Galileo

   * opposition to Benjamin Franklin's invention of the
     lightning rod since it was "contrary to the will
     of God"

   * opposition to birth control as "contrary to the
     will of God"

   * opposition to anesthesia during childbirth

   * failure to oppose slavery

   * opposition to civil rights and racial integration

   * opposition to the rights for women

   * opposition to the rights of homosexuals

   * failure to oppose wars

   For brevity I will stop the list here.  Any fundamentalist
   who ignores the above is hardly open minded, and perhaps
   even a bit confused.  I think a more open minded view
   would be to realize that the hope of the world lies not in
   Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Islam, Confucianism,
   Taoism, etc., but in the hope that the followers of such
   religions can learn to tolerate one another, learn from one
   another, and learn to share this planet without killing one
   another.


 3)  "preaching against freedom of speech"

     Speaking of casting the first stone, historically,
     fundamentalist "Christianity" has almost never failed to
     oppose free speech, and it remains the greatest threat to
     free speech in this country.  I've never seen critics of
     the fundamentalists burn any Bibles, censor any films,
     declare a teacher unfit for holding "Christian" beliefs,
     etc.  Sadly, the reverse is not true.  As far as I know,
     fundamentalists in this country have never been denied
     freedom of speech, and I don't hear any of their opponents
     suggesting that they should be denied freedom of speech.


 ***** FLAMES DYING DOWN *****

                             Don Winsor
                             U. of Michigan
                             Ann Arbor