[net.religion] Belated response to Dave Lee's no contradictions

jdj55611 (03/24/83)

Two weeks ago I submitted several contradictions I noted in the Bible
to the net. I saw a response from Dave Lee on this topic, but due to
a vacation I was not able to respond. Please pardon me for the lapse
of time but I have my priorities.

The first error dealt with the people who were with Paul when he was
converted. Quoting form Acts 9:7, "And the men which journeyed with him
stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man. In Acts 22:9 it
says " they heard not the voice." Dave Lee stated that this second
scripture should be translated as "understood not the voice" leaving no
contradiction. Sorry Dave, if you go back the the Hebrew you will find
that the "hearing" in chapter 9 and the "heard" in chapter 22 are derived
from the SAME Hebrew word. If you twist the meaning of one, you have to
do it to the other. I still see a contradiction!

The second error concerned the death of Judas. In Matt 27:5, it says that
Judas "hanged himself" while in Acts 1:18 described it as "falling
headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and his bowels gushed out."
Dave Lee indicated that a liberal definition of lynching solved the
problem. According to the Interpreters Bible, the term "falling headlong"
was translated from an ancient Hebrew medical term for excessive swelling
of the body. Assuming the Luke the physician inserted the commentary on
Judas in the Acts ( that is a widely held opinion ), he should know what
he was talking about. The crux of the matter is: Matthew indicates that
Judas' death was by his own hand, while Acts indicates that it was externally
delivered. 

If you follow along in the passage in Matthew, you will find this in 27:9:

"Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet saying,
And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued,
whom they of the children of Israel did value."

The problem is that this refers to a prophecy spoken be Zecheriah NOT
Jeremiah! This is found in Zech 11:12,13. The Interperters Bible calls
this a mistake and I agree.

The third error concerns missing scripture. There are seventeen references
to scripture in the Bible which are not found in the Bible. One example
is the reference to the prophecies of Enoch in Jude 14. Dave Lee refered
to Josh McDowell's book and said historians are continually been proven
wrong.  Well... I dug into Evidence That Demand a Verdict and found
nothing to explain why 
re that we have today is different from what
was available to Jude. The question remains:

If it is quoted by scripture, why isn't it scripture?

One final note. John concludes his Gospel with:

"And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they
should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could
not contain the books that should be written. Amen."

Does it sound like John would be satisfied with the six books and 21
letters that make up the New Testament? I don't think so.

Please excuse the typos. I'm still trying to get used to the cold here 
after Phoenix.

				J. J.
				Naperville, Illinois