dap1@ihlpf.UUCP (07/12/83)
#N:ihlpf:22600019: 0:3204 ihlpf!dap1 Jul 12 8:22:00 1983 This is a plea for a more even handed discussion of abortion. Most people who argue this point are firmly entrenched on either one side or the other. I don't think it's that simple, myself. First, let me say that I am NOT a fundamentalist christian (as earlier notes will attest to). However, I can understand the Pro-lifer's view (don't worry, pro-abortionists, I'll be around to you in a moment). In spite of all the talk about "when human life begins" nobody REALLY knows. This is attested to by the heat of the debate between knowledgeable people even within the pro-abortion camp. The tack that most pro-abortion arguments take is "Since nobody knows, let's leave it to the individual". That sounds reasonable, but it doesn't tell the whole story. The entire statement should read "Since nobody knows, let's leave it to the individual UP UNTIL SOME POINT IN THE PREGNANCY". Where should this point be? It should be at the point when the fetus is human beyond all "reasonable" doubt. Unfortunately, this point is just about as hard to pinpoint and justify as the original one. Another point in the pro-lifer's favor is the idea that they shouldn't argue against abortion because it should be an individual choice. I can understand this line of argument, but at the same time, if a pro-lifer REALLY believes abortion is murder (and as mentioned earlier, the experts can't even agree on when it becomes murder) then I can't really expect them to lay back and console themselves with the thought that while it's murder, that's only their opinion. It might be someone's opinion that it's not murder until the "fetus" is 21 but that shouldn't stop me from trying to legislate my views that killing a 10 year old is murder (an article in Nat. Lampoon the other day talked about allowing abortions until the age of 18 and showed an 18 year old fetus scheduled for abortion). On the other hand... Anyone claiming that a fertilized egg is a human being is pretty far off in almost anybody's book. Even the pro-lifer's usually refer to such a thing euphemistically as a "potential human being". To disallow abortions entirely, regardless of the reason, is also an extreme. Who are we to tell a thirteen year old rape victim that "We're not sure, but we think there might be a human being in there so you'll just have to live with the humiliation and psychological degradation eight and a half more months"? This is an extreme form of cruelty to a living being which is hard for me to justify. In the end, I don't think that this is a black and white issue at all. A fanatical view on either side which refuses to admit that the opposition has some grounds for argument is, in my view, unwarranted. Am I the only one on the net who feels this way? Darrell Plank BTL-IH P.S. I hope that most pro-lifers can disavow the support of Jerry Falwell types and argue out of reason rather than emotionalism. Unfortunately, this vocal group has given most people the impression of pro-lifers as a fanatical, unyielding arm of the fundamentalist right. I don't think that that's necessarily the case.
tim@unc.UUCP (07/12/83)
If people are really interested in changing minds in this discussion, might I suggest the adoption of a neutral terminology for the people on either side? The virtues of such are, I believe, self- evident. Name-calling never changed a mind. The word "pro-life" is unacceptable because it is clearly meant to imply that those holding a contrary position are "anti-life". This is a lie. In addition, it is pure rehetoric -- it says nothing about the actual issues being addressed. Equally unacceptable is the phrase "pro-abortion". I don't know ANYONE who is pro-abortion. Everyone seems to agree that it is an unpleasant and traumatic operation. I would be willing to accept "pro-choice" for those who favor laws supporting a woman's right to choose an abortion. The phrase "anti- abortion" seems to sum up the feelings of those who are against legal abortion. Let's use these in order to avoid name-calling, all right? Finally, if you disagree with me, please just ignore the article. I really don't want to get into an argument over this sort of thing. I'm just doing my part to try to keep things reasonable. ______________________________________ The overworked keyboard of Tim Maroney duke!unc!tim (USENET) tim.unc@udel-relay (ARPA) The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
kwmc@hou5d.UUCP (07/13/83)
This was a very good article , I wish there were more such balanced views expressed. One comment though, Ronald Reagan once said something like " We don't know when Human Life begins, until we do we have to err in the direction of protecting the fetuses hich might conceivably (pun) be human " Ken Cochran hou5d!kwmc