bts@unc.UUCP (11/07/83)
================================================================================ Now, for some Christian answers about the end of the world. Bruce Smith, UNC-Chapel Hill decvax!duke!unc!bts (USENET) bts.unc@CSnet-Relay (other NETworks) ================================================================================ To set the context for the following: I am a Christian; I am *not* a fundamentalist, although I do take the Scriptures seriously; I try to base my beliefs on the teachings of the Scriptures when there are teachings relevant to the issue being considered. With that said: 1. I do not expect the world to end within the next 40 years. The apocalyptic literature in the Bible is nei- ther specific enough nor literal enough to allow us to predict the date of Christ's return and/or the end of the world, and indeed we are discouraged in the Gospels from making such predictions. However, I would not be particularly surprised if mank- ind, at least, did come to an end in this century. The bases for this speculation are 1) that we are taught to expect the return of Christ/Judgment/ "end of the world" at any time, and 2) it seems entirely possible that we will enter into a major nuclear war sometime soon that will destroy most, if not all, of human civilization. (#2 is based not particularly on reli- gious beliefs, but simply on the observation that humans seem to get into a war every generation or so, and tend to use available technology in order to win said war.) But this *is* mere speculation. 3. I am fairly tolerant, I think, of those who disagree with me on eschatology, in that I recognize (I hope we all do) that eschatology is a highly speculative field, based on the interpretation of difficult and ambiguous symbolism in apocalyptic literature and on rather sparse bits of evidence. It thus involves more uncer- tainty than nearly any other branch of theology, and accordingly we must allow for differences. However, because my fellow Christians are involved (I wouldn't care so much what a Buddhist believed or did), I feel responsibility toward the "imminent end of the world" groups you mentioned, in two ways: 1) I would urge them to interpret the Scriptures in a scholarly and responsible manner. 2) I would *plead* with pre- millennialists *not* to abandon the world, even if this is the "last generation". The witness of the Prophets and the Gospels is that we are to work hard to care for the needy and to bring justice, mercy, and peace to the world, here and now. The Church must not avoid its present responsibility in favor of its future hope. ================================================================================ Do I think the world will end in the year 2000? Can't say. Depending on your doctrine of last things (eschatol- ogy), Earth should be around for at least another 0-7 years (my particular eschatology is 7 years; however, I will be disappear at the beginning of the last 7 years). After that, can't guarantee anything, so I can't guarantee 1991, much less 2000. If we make it to 1999 and I am still here, we still might not make it to 2000, because the other main school of eschatology (0 years) could be correct. Even if I'm right, I wouldn't want to be around during the last seven years. Am I tolerant of those who say it will end in 2000? "Boast not thyself of tomorrow, for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth." ================================================================================ I do not believe the world will necessarily end in 2001. I've been a Christian for a while and never heard anyone put that theory forward until now. Needless to say, I have no idea what it could be based on. I would be tolerant of a person who believed that, but I think I would like to ask them why and try and point out one or two of the scriptures about not knowing the times... I don't believe the world will continue forever, but I don't know when it will end. There are some things happen- ing that fulfil prophecy about the end times, but... ================================================================================ Since, in a broader sense you seem to be interested in others' beliefs about the end of the world, I'll try to sum- marize mine. I don't want to go into too much depth here since this is not your primary area of concern; however, I'd be glad to discuss them further if you'd like. I believe that the world as we know it will come to an end sometime within the next 50 years or so. By "as we know it", I mean that the current world order will change drasti- cally. Why I believe the world will end: I base this belief on several Biblical pro- phecies. The first says that the current world order will end at some time in the future. The world will be taken out of the hands of Satan and given to Jesus to rule for 1000 years, following which a new world will be created and the old one destroyed. So strictly speaking, I don't believe the world (Earth) will end for more than 1000 years. Why I believe it will be soon: The 1000 year period (The Millenium) will be ushered in by the return of Christ (The Second Coming). Prior to Christ's return, a number of prophecies must be fulfilled. One is that there will be a seven year period of judgment (The Great Tribulation). Another prophecy is that Israel will again become a nation. Speaking of this (in a parable subject to interpretation) Jesus says that all these things (including His return) will take place before the generation that sees the rebirth of Israel has passed. (Many people thought that this referred to a generation of 40 years; hence all the strange activi- ties of 1981 [= 1948 + 40 - 7]. I myself believe that a "generation" is the alternate dictionary definition: all the people living on the earth at any given time; thus that gen- eration will end around 2070 or so.) Another reason, though speculative, is that God speaks of a "sabbath rest" for His people, and a verse in the New Testament says that 1000 years are as a day in His sight; thus The Millenium seems to me to be the sabbath rest, and if the Jews were reasonably close in his calculations of the date of the beginning of the world then we're pretty close to the end of 6000 years, so The Millenium should be pretty close. In a nutshell, I believe it because I believe the Bible is God's revelation to men, and because so many of the signs are pointing that way. ================================================================================ I have no belief concerning the time of the End of the world. I think that people should believe what they like. However even if the world were known to be ending that year beyond dispute, I would not believe that it would be right to ruin or waste natural resources. Comment--- Let me say that I do believe that there is a finite lifetime for the world as we know it. And just because that I do not know when the end will come, I believe that it will come. I base this belief on the scriptures and on my own knowledge of why the world exists and what is mans purpose for being here. I believe (but do not know for sure) that knowing that the world will some day end has very little impact on my behavior. I would like to think that I live my life well and independant of a punishment affixed to my actions, how- ever, I am influenced by the possibility of receiving a just reward for my actions as adjudicated by a wise and loving Father. ================================================================================ The Bible teaches 7 years of tribulation before the Lord returns to rule the earth. The world (earth) will never cease to exist. Prior to the tribulation is the occurance of the Rapture, which is the removing of the Church from this planet. Could the recent events involving KAL 007, Grenada, Central America be a sign of the times??? If the Rapture occurred on 10/26/83, that means that approximatly 7 years later, or 10/26/90 the Lord returns for the final conflict against the beast. But if the "world ends" in 2000 as some believe, then we have about 10 more years till the Rap- ture... But this is all relevant. The Bible says: "watch therefore...be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh" (Matt 24:42-44) Some people actually believe this verse to mean in the early morning hours!!!!! (Isn't it early morning somewhere in the world 24 hrs/day?) If people want to believe that the world will end in the year 2000, fine. But I have no idea the exact year, how- ever the things happening in the world seem like the signs talked about in the New Testament. (you know, "....as in the days of Lot, as in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming of the Lord...")