[net.religion] Observing Evolution

bch@unc.UUCP (10/19/83)

So...Creation Scientists maintain that evolution has never been observed.

If I remember correctly, the process of evolution is not some unitary
driving unintelligent force, but the product of at least three different
phenomenon:

	(1) Natural selection (survival of the fittest):  simply
put -- in a competetive environment the species most well adapted to
that environment survive, most likely at the expense of species less
well adapted.  The most obvious example of this is the human being.
The species has not only adapted to its environment, but gone one
step further and has begun adapting the environment to itself!  For
an example of species failing to compete, see any list of extinct
or endangered species.  

	(2) Random mutation:  While this doesn't happen to complex
critters in ways that are generally observable, it does happen to
viruses and bacteria all the time.  Some biologist correct me if
I'm wrong, but I believe that Swine Flu virus that caused such a
panic in the medical industry in 1976 was a mutated form of the
swine flu virus responsible for the pandemic of 1918.  There is
a marvelous book called "Rats, Lice, and History" which describes
developments in human history as a result of a genetic shift in
the Typhus bacteria from Biblical times until today.  The more
complex the critter, the longer it takes to show up, but the
evidence is there.

	(3) Genetic Drift:  See the newspapers of two weeks
ago for the Nobel Prize for observations of this exact phenomenon.
Hybridization of plants -- a naturally occurring phenomenon --
has been observed and studied for centuries and is the basis for
most of modern agriculture.  

Have I left anything out?

					Byron Howes
					UNC - Chapel Hill
					decvax!duke!unc!bch

nazgul@apollo.UUCP (Kee Hinckley) (10/25/83)

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    For that matter, anyone who doesn't believe in evolution should take a
look at the effect of pesticides on insects.  Funny how they don't work
very well, the insects keep adapting from one generation to the next.
    
                                    -kee

crm@duke.UUCP (11/01/83)

Would someone enlighten me on the difference between "classic Modern Synthesis
Evolution" and "natural selection" which is not evolution?  It seems to me
that if changes in characteristics are seem which a) are inherited and b) are
causing those possessing the characteristic to occupy a growing proportion
or the population, thereby indicating that this characteristic results in
a higher probability of survival, that this demonstrates the natural selection
which is claimed as the central factor in evolution.

eich@uiuccsb.UUCP (11/08/83)

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uiuccsb!eich    Nov  4 21:22:00 1983

I didn't say natural selection is not evolution, just that it is not
nearly the whole story.

I think I meant by `natural selection' something narrower than what you
mean.  Most texts I have read treat the issue of what genotypes the
survival criterion selects separately from the selection itself.  Thus
natural selection acting on primordial organisms doesn't account for
new species.  For that you need (and the Modern synthesis posits)
mutations.

So part of the synthesis is the observation that mutagens and ionizing
radiation create a background of `spontaneous' mutations, and the
postulate that enough of these over a long period result in beneficial
changes (beneficial by the survival of the fittest criterion)
sufficient to produce a new species.  Microbiology supports this by
finding an evolutionary history in genetic material (`Ontogeny
recapitulates Phylogeny' in miniature).

On the other hand the Modern Synthesis is under quiet attack right now
from biologists like Stephen Gould, partly because steady, slow
progress by random mutation isn't too well supported, especially by
(not to give Creationists comfort, but I must say it) the fossil
record.  Gould holds that evolution is a saltational process, occuring
disjuctively in a fury of mutation and selection between the epochs.

But the point I was making is that all of this evolution controversy in
biology deals with more than natural selection: namely, where does the
great variety of life come from, granted that it obviously was
selected?