[net.religion] LAST one in a series of... Tim's mail

kfk@ccieng2.UUCP (11/07/83)

WRT Tim Maroney's statement:
	Contrary to the assertions of one claimant in Avi's poll, I DO
	answer my mail.  Not always within the space of two weeks, but I
	do answer it.  IF you received no reply to a letter of yours,
	you might start looking for other explanations before you start
	pinning blame on me.  Haven't you ever had a messaged sucked
	into the void before?  This network is incredibly unreliable.
	This situation is hardly ameliorated by the rapid fixing of
	blame, whether it is there or not.

Well, Tim, that was me (ccieng2!kfk) who made that complaint.  I have
tried on 3 separate occasions to mail to you; I have never received a
response.  I know that I can get to !unc! via uucp, because I have
mailed to !unc! on other occasions.  It is, of course, possible
that on *all* of these occasions when I have mailed to you that the
links to !unc! were faulty.  But who is guilty of "rapid fixing of
blame?"  I'm truly sorry if I offended you, but just what am I supposed
to conclude when I am consistently ignored?  I have had messages sucked
into the void on other occasions, but if the links were down on all
occasions, I had no way of knowing it.  Frankly, the first 2 times
didn't bother me much; I attributed it, just as you suggested, to unre-
liable network paths.  The third time I came to what seemed to be the
inevitable conclusion that I was being tersely ignored.  Hence my claim
that you do not respond to mail.  Perhaps you could now mail me a short
note, so that I know a path (perhaps a more reliable one than I have
been using) with which to reach you on future occasions?

Karl Kleinpaste
...![seismo, allegra]!rochester!ritcv!ccieng5!ccieng2!kfk    or
...![seismo, ihnp4, allegra]!rlgvax!ccieng5!ccieng2!kfk

P.S. All flames to /dev/null.  This is posted because it is clear that
I cannot trust current mail paths to !unc!.  Also, I was not trying to
generate animosity when I commented that Tim did not respond to mail,
but was merely commenting on what seemed at the time to be a fact; but
Tim seems to have interpreted it as animosity.  Mild apologies for
possible confusion.

P.P.S.  Also, let's NOT start a discussion of the unreliability of
mail paths here.

laura@utcsstat.UUCP (Laura Creighton) (11/11/83)

hey everybody,

	mail to unc is really screwy. 2 out of every three messages
I send there either bounce at decvax or bounce at duke. (these days
I use ulysses!unc, but that is another question). half of these bounce
silently. It is real hard to keep up a converstion at that rate, but
people try.

	over the past 6 months I think that about 7 things that I have
sent to unc have been irrecovocably lost (ie they were lost and now
I can't remember what I said). I think that Tim owes me 3 articles  and
I owe him 2. (but if your count is 3, Tim, I sent the 3rd try of
"what a C function type really is" this morning!).  half of the mail
between us is "did you get X" and "duke is dead for a week, route
through ulysses for sure" sort of mail.

	so if you are losing messages, you aren't the only one...but
I really do not think that Tim is to blame either.

Laura Creighton
utcsstat!laura