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leff@smu.UUCP (11/24/83)

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smu!leff    Nov 23 17:05:00 1983

In net.cse there was a comment raised that teacher's need more pay
among other things such as better working conditions, more respect, 
more interested and/or intelligent students, more money to buy equipment
and supplies, smaller class size, more autonomy, better or less 
administrators, etc.

I pointed out that many people here at SMU studying for  the ministry
left high paying jobs in accounting, computer science and engineering
to study for the ministry.  If we compare that to computer science
B. S's these people are making more of a sacrifice than a computer
scientist would make to study for the Ph.D. and go into teaching.
Most of the students studying for the ministry receive no financial aid.
Most reasonable C. S. students receive an assistantship.  A Ph. D. in
computer science would make more than a minister, even in a fairly low
paying University. *

An answer was given that a person studying for the ministry feels
a call from GOD.  The question

  why is the call from GOD to preach greater than the call to teach

An atheist who believes in following 'humanism' or morals could feel the
call to serve his fellow human as a teacher as greatly as a theist could
feel a call from GOD.  At least those who argue that humanism is as powerful
a religion or belief than a theistic religion should see that.  Other fields
that should attract this attention should be lawyers, doctors, nurses,
social workers.

Also some religions would feel that GOD can be served well by serving
one's fellow human in some capacity.  

I mentioned this to some of the people studying here for the ministry
and they felt they were following a call.  One minister and one person 
who was not were a little more crass arguing that they would be rewarded
in the afterlife and that GOD would take care of them.  Kind of like 
an entrepreneur working hard for low wages so he make a good killing
later.  I believe this sort of crassness is the exception rather than the
rule.  I know of no major argument in the churches that preachers should
get more pay, at least not as great as that for teachers.

* The Wall Street Journal also did an article on people following
  vocations.  More older people are going into the ministry some from
  extremely high paying sales positions or medical practices, etc.
  We don't see this happening in other helping professions.