[net.religion] A disagreement with Tim Maroney

aeq@pucc-h (Sargent) (01/10/84)

>                                                              (I assume that
> by Western religions you refer to such things as Christianity which are more
> concerned with externals than internals)

Ah, but Christianity is not just concerned with externals!  It does not just
ask you to act in certain specified ways and not in others, no matter whether
you really want to or not.  Rather, "the whole point of being a Christian is
to become a little Christ", i.e. to be changed into a person who just acts
Christlike by nature, because he wants to, not because he has to.  (The
approximate quote is from one of my favorite authors, C.S. Lewis, who wrote
a good bit of well-thought-out stuff wherein Christianity is presented
quite intelligently.)  In other words, Christianity most definitely focuses
on internals.  I won't post my autobiography to the net, but I can certainly
attest to the fact that changes in my behavior have come about because of
changes within me, not because I hewed to some lifeless laws.  I've said
many times that prayer is the ultimate psychotherapy.

(BTW, I was on vacation for 3 weeks, hence did not see the article I am
quoting [dated Dec 21] until just now.)

-- Jeff Sargent/...pur-ee!pucc-h:aeq

tim@unc.UUCP (Tim Maroney) (01/10/84)

Thanks to Jeff Sargent for his thoughtful response.  I had asserted that
Western religions such as Christianity were more concerned with externals
than internals.  Jeff responded that this was not the case, that the essence
of Christianity is in the emulation of Christ.  In other words, he feels
that the "true Christian" doesn't refrain from sin because ordered to, but
because of an inherent inclination to good.

This is a view that finds a certain amount of support in the Gospels,
particularly in the famous line about committing adultery by the simple
sensation of lust, even without any adulterous action.  However, I did not
say that Christianity ignores internals, only that it places MORE emphasis
on externals.  This is evident from reading the Gospels, and observing that
the pronouncements against those who DO certain things are much more common
than statements that the true sin is internal.  Also, Christianity does not
provide any particular techniques or models relating to internal experience,
unlike the inward-directed Eastern religions such as Buddhism (some forms,
that is -- obviously, I am excludiong the absurdities of the Pure-Landers)
and Taoism, or other inward-directed religions such as Thelemism.

I am sorry that I did not make myself clear.  I do not believe that
Christianity completely fails to deal with internals, only that it is more
concerned with the external.
--
Tim Maroney, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
duke!unc!tim (USENET), tim.unc@csnet-relay (ARPA)