[net.religion] latest bright thought

laura@utcsstat.UUCP (Laura Creighton) (01/23/84)

I am writing a reasonably large essay right now contrasting Soren Kierkegaard
on despair with Camus on despair. All of a sudden this hit me -- Camus (or
at any rate, certain of his characters) doesn't know how to live at all. They
think that a life *is* *a* *thing* -- not a process. Thus they are obsessed
with death since it is only after this that you can get enough of a view
to say "oh yeah, that is what so-and-so really was". 

I think that this is horrible. It is one thing to be responsible for the
NOW, but must one carry all one's past misdeeds with one? Certain moral
theories would have this. I remember being told that "god will sit there and
tell you all your sins, every last one, on judgement day and you will be
responsible for eery one". Hmm. I did a lot of awful things as a child,
most of which I would not do now. I am not the same person. I find it hard
to take responsibility for things that "the-I-that-was" did -- I have enough
to worry about with "the-I-that-is". 

I can sit with an amused detatchment and wonder at the person that I was,
but I feel very little (perhaps none? it is hard to say) attatchment for
that person. I feel the same sort of detatched copmpassion that I can summon
for any human being. As I move closer to the present I feel more of an
attatchment, and the sins of 2 years ago still weigh upon me -- but I can see
that in a few years they too will be gone, as I commit them to the past. 

It is a very eerie feeling. I am sure that I am supposed to "have a past"
and "have a future" -- where else would the expressions come from? But
I do not feel that I have one. Ought I not feel more connected to my past
than anybody else' past? Right now, I can't feel it -- it all seems like
some sort of amusing game that was played...

Perhaps I am merely in a strange mood, and it will all come back tomorrow.
Perhaps not. it rather botches any idea I had of responsibility, though,
so there must be something here that I am missing...

Anybody been here before?

Laura Creighton
utzoo!utcsstat!laura

rpw3@fortune.UUCP (01/31/84)

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fortune!rpw3    Jan 31 04:40:00 1984

Laura, the traditional Buddhist view might not cheer you up, but a least
it's neither of your extremes, to wit:

1. You cannot ignore your past actions (even unto previous lives, if you
   want to be really traditional), since the trace/echo/residue/attachment
   of those actions keeps popping up. (The word 'karma' literally means
   'action'. Figuratively it means 'cause and effect'. It does NOT mean
   'fate', unless you want to call it 'fate' that the light goes off when
   you turn off the switch, or that the water started running when you
   turned on the faucet.)

2. On the other hand, there is nothing 'originally sinful' about having
   a history of past actions, with all that implies. Your accumulation
   of karma (residue/inertia of past actions) just is, like a mountain
   or a cocked trigger or a tornado. Meditation practice is a bit like
   bird watching, in that you begin to see the (inexorable) patterns of
   cause and effect that go on in one's mind.

3. The only hope (having see the mechanistic way we play out our little
   movie scripts) is the realization that it's not really solid; we don't
   exist as a continual "thing"; there are "gaps". The grip of karma is
   in our persistence in playing the thing out, even when we know it
   doesn't work. Since there are "gaps", we actually have some choice
   about waking up vs. repeating the same old thing. Meditation helps
   bias that choice towards waking up; most of our past behaviour (karma)
   re-enforces staying asleep (i.e, angry, ignorant, passionate, jealous,
   prideful, etc.).

As one who got really stuck for a long time (during the college years) in
S.K.'s "Fear and Trembling", I would now say that the problem of the
French existentialists was (is?) that they had absolutely no sense of
humor, no sense of the absurdity of their "absurd". "The Problem" was
declared to be such a solid immovable "thing", despite the fact that
the fact of their own deaths showed it wasn't solid, either.

(Kierkagaard I'm not sure about. He made such a big deal out of
"cowardice" that I'm tempted to call it laziness, instead.)

So I would agree. They didn't know how to live. Although they WERE trying
to put SOME "meaning" into it (even if they deified it as "meaninglessness").

Rob Warnock

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