[net.religion] A question; articles in Aramaic

silly@proper.UUCP (Steve Chicks) (01/25/84)

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     I don't know about Aramaic, but Latin is lacking in the articles
'the' and 'a'.  I wonder if these words really convey any meaning, or
if we use them just because we've always used them?  Any comments?

					hplabs!intelca!proper!silly

mmc@gummo.UUCP (01/25/84)

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gummo!mmc    Jan 25 09:33:00 1984

Palestinian Aramaic does have a definite article (as does Hebrew), usually
indicated by a suffix to the noun (as opposed to the Hebrew prefix).
Verification for this can be found in the Targum literature (Targum = Aramaic
translation of the Hebrew scriptures), parts of which date to Hasmonean times
(1st century BCE).

The indefinite article is indicated by the absence of a definite article,
or by the use of the word for the number "one" as an article.

	Mark Chodrow (zeppo!mmc)

edhall@randvax.UUCP (01/29/84)

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I read somewhere once that the Aramaic language used by Jesus in the
New Testament did not have an equivalent to the English articles `The'
and `A'.  In particular I am interested in the lack of the exclusive
article, `The'.  Does anyone know if this is indeed so?  Scholarly
references only, please.  And please, *please*, any followups of a
religious nature to net.religion *only*.

		-Ed Hall
		decvax!randvax!edhall   (UUCP)
		edhall@rand-unix        (ARPA)

wjb@burl.UUCP (01/30/84)

--
In general, I use the indefinite article to indicate that the object
in question is "not special," that is, it is one of several objects
that would fit the need of the moment. --> "I wanted a book."

I use use the definite article to indicate that the object in
question is "special," that is, the object being discussed is the
only object that would fit the need of the moment. --> "I wanted the
book."

Whereas I am sure that I could communicate without the distinction,
I do like to be able to make such subtle distinctions in shades of
meaning.-- 

				--Bill Buie

nathanm@hp-pcd.UUCP (02/09/84)

I can't speak for Aramaic either, but Hebrew (biblical and
modern) has "the" but not "a".  Hebrew is the modern language
that most closely resembles Aramaic.

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Nathan Meyers
..!allegra!harpo!hp-pcd!nathanm