[net.religion] The threat of Creationism

jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen) (02/23/84)

In recent weeks we have witnessed a rather heated debate between
those supporting evolution theory and others who subscribe to
"scientific creation".  I feel that this debate is addressing the
wrong issues.  Creationists are not really concerned with scientific
research on origins, what they want is to shove their religion down
our throats.

Very often new scientific ideas spark controversies and disagreement
in the scientific community.  Let us remember that these
disagreements are between scientists. On the other hand, the
evolution-creation arguments take place between scientists and 
religionists.  Scientists attempting to argue with creationists are
wasting their time.  They are dealing with individuals and groups
who live in a different frame of reference.

Why is there so much noise in opposition to evolution theory?  We
rarely hear of objections to other scientific ideas.  The answer is
that evolution appears to contradict the religious beliefs of
creationists, beliefs that are based on a literal interpretation of
the Bible.

What will happen if other groups discover that certain scientific
ideas are offensive to their dogmatic beliefs?  For example,
Marxists may object to the quantum mechanical model of the atom 
on the grounds that quantum mechanics contradicts Marxist materialism.
They may insist that the particle-wave duality concept of quantum
mechanics are anti-materialistic.  Some of you may think that I am
being far-fetched in this example.  Yet, in the early days of quantum
mechanics, quantum chemistry was ignored by Soviet chemists.  The
result was a lack of progress in theoretical chemistry by the
Soviets.  It appears that some Soviet communist party theologians
felt that quantum mechanics was anti-Marxist.

Creationism is a threat to science.  The threat is not posed by the
"scientific" arguments of creationists, but to the scientific
method itself.  If we are not careful we may find out that instead
of validating scientific theory on the lab bench, we would have to
use the Bible as a yard stick.

Creationists and other fundamentalists may not only pose a threat 
to scientific research, but could also restrict our freedom in other areas.
We should remember that Khomenism may not only be restricted to Iran.

Creationists should not be discounted as a political force.  (They
even have a friend in the White House.)  Creationists have the
necessary financial and human resources to launch a political
campaign designed to promote their "science".  After all, Jerry
Falwell is a creationist.

Their ideas, which seem funny and bizarre to many of us, may be
quite appealing to the vast and less educated segments of our society.
-- 

Yosi Hoshen
Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois
(312)-979-7321
Mail: ihnp4!ihuxn!jho

krista@ihuxr.UUCP (k.j.anderson) (02/28/84)

Yosi,
     I agree that creationism is a threat and that the politics
behind it must not be discounted.  But, I think that scientists
or other interested people should continue to debate creationists.
To not oppose them is to show apathy which is a sign of political 
weakness.  It's a shame that anyone has to argue against silliness
but it's necessary when so many people are taking silliness seriously.
                             ihuxr!krista (k.j.anderson)