[net.religion] Bad Free will/Omni model

david@ssc-vax.UUCP (03/03/84)

Jon White replied:

> I'll leave question #1 for someone else to answer, but I will take a stab at 
> the second question.  Even if God created the universe such that each of us
> had two possible futures based on a free-will decision (or even better, an
>infinite number of futures based on an infinite number of free-will decisions),
> God would still have created the entire lifetime of the universe at the moment 
>of creation.  He still, by the definition of omniscience, exists in "our" past,
> present, and all possible futures.   And (as I have pointed out before) if He 
> exists in all of the possible futures, those futures are out there for Him to
> exist in.   Of course, He knew exactly which future each of us would end up
> with even "before" creation.
>So you see, David, you won't be able to resolve the contradiction until you can
> explain how God can exist in the future without having already created it.

Well, Jon is right, this model stinks!

I'll wait for Jon's reply to the main point of my article before accusing him
of Special Pleading (or Neglected Aspect).

	-- David Norris        :-)
	-- uw-beaver!ssc-vax!david