[net.religion] Agnosticism, or ???

david@ssc-vax.UUCP (David Norris) (03/31/84)

Dave Wallis:

> Notice that I don't claim that we can't know, but that logically
> speaking, it is probable that we can't know, and I don't have
> to play the philosophical game of "we can't *really* know anything".
>      I further contend that it makes absolutely no diference if we
> know or not, or if we believe or not. If God does exist, and I choose
> not to believe that He does, and I live a good life (help people,
> report crimes, etc.) there are two possible alternatives when I die:
> 1) I will go to heaven, since I lived a good life, which is what God
> wants (remember, assuming He exists) or 2) I will go to Hell, because
> I didn't believe in God. In this case, religeon itself is a waste,
> since they would be advocating worship of an arbitraty and vindictive
> God.

I think you have given yourself away.  First, you state that it is probable
that we can't know.  Next, that it doesn't make any difference and give us
two unfounded religious precepts (1: God wants us to lead a good life, and
2: men go to Hell because they don't believe in God)?  If we can't know,
then how can any such claims be made?  Where does this knowledge of God
come from?  If from Christianity, then both points are either in error or
badly worded.  If not, then you have omitted many other religious doctrines
explaining God (Hinduism, for example).

	-- David Norris        :-)
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