lise@utcsstat.UUCP (Lise Manchester) (03/31/84)
I think Thomas Aquinas said the definitive word on this subject a few hundred years ago: "You cannot arrive at faith by reason." Lise Manchester
rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (04/02/84)
> I think Thomas Aquinas said the definitive word on this > subject a few hundred years ago: > "You cannot arrive at faith by reason." - Lise Manchester Yes, and with this in mind there is no reason to have faith in things that cannot be justified by reason and logic. -- "Submitted for your approval..." Rich Rosen pyuxn!rlr
aeq@pucc-h (Jeff Sargent) (04/07/84)
>> I think Thomas Aquinas said the definitive word on this >> subject a few hundred years ago: >> "You cannot arrive at faith by reason." >> - Lise Manchester > Yes, and with this in mind there is no reason to have faith > in things that cannot be justified by reason and logic. > - Rich Rosen You've got it backwards! If things CAN be justified by reason and logic, then there isn't much reason to have faith (except in the sense of faithfulness, i.e. continuing to believe in them even if you wish they weren't true); if reason and logic are enough to handle a particular matter, fine. But Rich has just stated (thank you, Rich!) the basic assumption that his side makes, which I have (in another article, just submitted) challenged Rich or anyone else to support. -- -- Jeff Sargent {allegra|ihnp4|decvax|harpo|seismo|ucbvax}!pur-ee!pucc-h:aeq Software maintenance: It's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it.